marc@uni-paderborn.de (Marc Gumbold) (06/12/91)
In order to get all the nice stuff running, that is available nowadays for the ST (I own a good ol' 1986 520 ST+), how much memory would you recommend me to add to my 1 MB? The "nice stuff" mentioned above would include Gnu stuff (Emacs, gcc, g++, gdb [Is there gdb for the ST?]), and MiNT, mgr, bash. Anything important I missed? I really like my ST for what it is, namely a good typewriter. But I would like to be able to do some decent C hackery at home and have my favourite tool (Emacs) around. I know the ST is slow, but I can live with that. I don't have the money to replace my ST with a state-of-the-art ?86 AT with some Unix. Or does anyone think it's not worth it? Should I better throw my ST out of the window (e.g. keep on just using it as a typewriter-calendar-addressbook-videogame-terminal-thingy)? Any comments welcome, Marc -- Marc Gumbold EMail: marc@uni-paderborn.de Phone(home): +49 5234 5319 grad CS stud Snail(home): Nordstr. 29, 4934 Horn-Bad Meinberg, Germany ------ "Forty-two," said Deep Thought, with infinite majesty and calm. -------
csbrod@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Claus Brod) (06/12/91)
marc@uni-paderborn.de (Marc Gumbold) writes: >In order to get all the nice stuff running, that is available >nowadays for the ST (I own a good ol' 1986 520 ST+), >how much memory would you recommend me to add to my 1 MB? 4 MB or more, if you really want to run all the stuff mentioned (MiNT, mgr, g++). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Claus Brod, Am Felsenkeller 2, Things. Take. Time. D-8772 Marktheidenfeld, Germany (Piet Hein) csbrod@medusa.informatik.uni-erlangen.de Claus_Brod@wue.maus.de ----------------------------------------------------------------------
mbaker@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Matthew Baker) (06/12/91)
From article <1991Jun11.190859.16688@uni-paderborn.de>, by marc@uni-paderborn.de (Marc Gumbold): > In order to get all the nice stuff running, that is available > nowadays for the ST (I own a good ol' 1986 520 ST+), > how much memory would you recommend me to add to my 1 MB? Recently, I did some horrible mangulations to my ST to put two 1MB SIPs in it. Subsequently (now with 2.5MB) I have had no problems whatsoever with memory. I use Gcc occasionally (but usually only on small code) - gemini, Calamus, Uniterm, MicroEmacs etc - and (apart from trying to load dozens of fonts into Calamus) have _never_ wished I had more memory. I'd say that 2.5 is a reasonable point to go to. Not very expensive, either. > ... Anything important I missed? Apart from gemini? 8) > I really like my ST for what it is, namely a good typewriter. > But I would like to be able to do some decent C hackery at home > and have my favourite tool (Emacs) around. I know the ST is slow, > but I can live with that. I don't have the money to replace my > ST with a state-of-the-art ?86 AT with some Unix. I have an old 10MHz '286 running an elderly (2.1.1) Xenix that I use as a 'unix' machine... it does the job quite nicely... (faster than a Vax! 8) (okay, okay, better response time :) > Or does anyone think it's not worth it? Should I better throw > my ST out of the window (e.g. keep on just using it as a > typewriter-calendar-addressbook-videogame-terminal-thingy)? Depends. If you have a hard disk, it's worth it. If not, best buy a new system. (not being defeatist here... and I am basing this on _my_ experience here in Oz with astronomical prices and all. > Any comments welcome, Mail bounced :( > Marc Matthew
robin@castle.ed.ac.uk (R C Smith) (06/13/91)
In article <1991Jun11.190859.16688@uni-paderborn.de> marc@uni-paderborn.de (Marc Gumbold) writes: >I don't have the money to replace my >ST with a state-of-the-art ?86 AT with some Unix. I wouldn't call ?86 state-of-the-art, its just very common but I admit Unix would be nice.. On the subject of memory buy as much as you can afford
spa@fct.unl.pt (Salvador Pinto Abreu) (06/14/91)
In article <11003@castle.ed.ac.uk> robin@castle.ed.ac.uk (R C Smith) writes: > marc@uni-paderborn.de (Marc Gumbold) writes: > >I don't have the money to replace my > >ST with a state-of-the-art ?86 AT with some Unix. > > I wouldn't call ?86 state-of-the-art, its just very common but I admit > Unix would be nice.. > > On the subject of memory buy as much as you can afford Minix-ST with a 4Mb system is quite adequate for the kind of thing you're mentioning. Most GNU stuff [gcc, emacs, bash...] runs nicely in this environment. -- -- Salvador Pinto Abreu spa@fct.unl.pt Universidade Nova de Lisboa, PORTUGAL