[comp.sys.atari.st] FTP Beginner's Guide

weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Jeff Weiner) (04/03/91)

This is a basic guide to ftp.  It is intended only to get you on your
way to ftp happiness.  Please let me know if you have any comments,
questions, or suggestions.  

weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			Jeff Weiner's FTP Basics Vol.1 #1


Part 1: Logging in
To begin an ftp session, the first thing you need to do is log in to our
machine.  You can do this by issuing the 'ftp atari.archive.umich.edu'
command.  You should then see something like this:

Connected to atari.archive.umich.edu.
220 atari.archive.umich.edu FTP server (Version 4.169 Wed Jan 2 17:03:56 EST 199
1) ready.
Name (yourhost.domain.edu:yourusername):

At this prompt you'll want to type 'anonymous'.  On some hosts, the word
'guest' will work, but 'anonymous' is always a sure bet.

If you don't see this login prompt, but instead get something like
'Our host was unable to trace a name back to (some internet address).
 We only accept ftp from properly registered hosts', then you'll have to
ask your sys-admin to properly register your machine in its name servers.
There's nothing we can do on this end, so please don't bother asking.
Also, if your machine doesn't allow you to specify the atari.archive name,
try using out internet address : 141.211.164.8  Then, march down to
your sys-admins office and ask him to install name-service.  Your life will
become much easier.

Assuming you recieved the above prompt, you'll then be asked for a 
password.  Use your mail address. For example, I would use 
'weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu'


Part 2: Basic Commands
Once you're logged on, there's a few basic commands you'll want to know about.

ls  : lists the names of files of sub-directories in a directory.
ls -C  : Lists the files horizontally, instead of vertically.
dir : does the same thing as ls, but is needed on some other machines
ls -l : A verbose listing of files.  Includes permissions, filesize, etc.
cd  : changes directories (i.e. 'cd atari' would put you in the atari area)
cd .. : Goes 'back up' a directory, to the one you came from.

These are about all you need to get moving around the archive.  


Part 3: Getting the Goddies

The main reason you want to ftp in the first place is to quickly transfer 
files.  More often than not, you'll want to transfer the files from
the archive to your account.  You can do this using the following commands:

First, find the file you want to download.
Second, issue the command 'type binary'.  This tells our machine that 
you'll be transferring a binary file.  This is really important.  You'll
waste a LOT of time if you download files that were not transferred in 
binary mode.
Third, issue this command 'get <filename.ext>'.  This will instruct 
the archive host to send <filename.ext> to your account.

The last thing you'll want to do is use the 'quit' command.  This 
tells our machine you're no longer interested in ftping files, and would
like to go back to your command prompt.

Now, you'll need to download your files from your mainframe(sparc, whatever)
to your ST.  Usually you'll want to use either kermit or x- or y- or z-modem
protocals.  They're very reliable.  I'd be quite hesitant to try something
else.  Also, your machine and ST are usually unique to you.  This means
that I really can't help you with this part.  You could try asking, but
I'm going to promise anything.

Part 4: A Few Words on Net Ettiquette

Net Ettiquette is something that every net user should be aware of. 
Relating to ftp, and our archive, it is essentially this:

1)  Try to keep ftp usage to an absolute minimum during business hours,
in our time zone.  That would be 9 am to 5 pm , EST.  This roughly means
upload or download one file or so and little else during these hours.  After
5pm, have a blast.  Go nuts.  We probably won't mind nearly as much.....
Otherwise, we will drive to your campus or place of work (even if you
live in Europe) and we'll kick youe butt.  Or, Jon will sing Prince 
songs to you.  Whichever you'd like the least.

2)  If you have a question about some aspect of ftp service or some
other area of your computer, please ask around at your site first.  Don't 
immediately fire off all of your questions to us.  I don't mind answering
questions about the archive, problems with logging in, or something
similar.  But I tend to get upset when people ask me questions like, 
"Jeff, how come I can't get the fgrep command to work properly on
my sparc station...."

3) Please try to upload files that you know the archive doesn't have.  I
know it's not the greatest thing to do, but if you can find time to
download stuff, I think you can find time to return the favor and
upload things also.


If you have any reasonable questions, any comments or concerns, etc.
please mail them to me, weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu.

Thanks,
weiner


--
Jeff Weiner    	weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu	     Jeff_Weiner@ub.cc.umich.edu
    Mail Dennis_Devine@ub.cc.umich.edu and ask if he'd like a White Castle 
Atari.archive.umich.edu Caretaker||194M and climbin'|| "So like take off eh?" 

weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Jeff Weiner) (04/23/91)

This is a basic guide to ftp.  It is intended only to get you on your
way to ftp happiness.  Please let me know if you have any comments,
questions, or suggestions.  

weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			Jeff Weiner's FTP Basics Vol.1 #1


Part 1: Logging in
To begin an ftp session, the first thing you need to do is log in to our
machine.  You can do this by issuing the 'ftp atari.archive.umich.edu'
command.  You should then see something like this:

Connected to atari.archive.umich.edu.
220 atari.archive.umich.edu FTP server (Version 4.169 Wed Jan 2 17:03:56 EST 199
1) ready.
Name (yourhost.domain.edu:yourusername):

At this prompt you'll want to type 'anonymous'.  On some hosts, the word
'guest' will work, but 'anonymous' is always a sure bet.

If you don't see this login prompt, but instead get something like
'Our host was unable to trace a name back to (some internet address).
 We only accept ftp from properly registered hosts', then you'll have to
ask your sys-admin to properly register your machine in its name servers.
There's nothing we can do on this end, so please don't bother asking.
Also, if your machine doesn't allow you to specify the atari.archive name,
try using out internet address : 141.211.164.8  Then, march down to
your sys-admins office and ask him to install name-service.  Your life will
become much easier.

Assuming you recieved the above prompt, you'll then be asked for a 
password.  Use your mail address. For example, I would use 
'weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu'


Part 2: Basic Commands
Once you're logged on, there's a few basic commands you'll want to know about.

ls  : lists the names of files of sub-directories in a directory.
ls -C  : Lists the files horizontally, instead of vertically.
dir : does the same thing as ls, but is needed on some other machines
ls -l : A verbose listing of files.  Includes permissions, filesize, etc.
cd  : changes directories (i.e. 'cd atari' would put you in the atari area)
cd .. : Goes 'back up' a directory, to the one you came from.

These are about all you need to get moving around the archive.  


Part 3: Getting the Goddies

The main reason you want to ftp in the first place is to quickly transfer 
files.  More often than not, you'll want to transfer the files from
the archive to your account.  You can do this using the following commands:

First, find the file you want to download.
Second, issue the command 'type binary'.  This tells our machine that 
you'll be transferring a binary file.  This is really important.  You'll
waste a LOT of time if you download files that were not transferred in 
binary mode.
Third, issue this command 'get <filename.ext>'.  This will instruct 
the archive host to send <filename.ext> to your account.

The last thing you'll want to do is use the 'quit' command.  This 
tells our machine you're no longer interested in ftping files, and would
like to go back to your command prompt.

Now, you'll need to download your files from your mainframe(sparc, whatever)
to your ST.  Usually you'll want to use either kermit or x- or y- or z-modem
protocals.  They're very reliable.  I'd be quite hesitant to try something
else.  Also, your machine and ST are usually unique to you.  This means
that I really can't help you with this part.  You could try asking, but
I'm going to promise anything.

Part 4: A Few Words on Net Ettiquette

Net Ettiquette is something that every net user should be aware of. 
Relating to ftp, and our archive, it is essentially this:

1)  Try to keep ftp usage to an absolute minimum during business hours,
in our time zone.  That would be 9 am to 5 pm , EST.  This roughly means
upload or download one file or so and little else during these hours.  After
5pm, have a blast.  Go nuts.  We probably won't mind nearly as much.....
Otherwise, we will drive to your campus or place of work (even if you
live in Europe) and we'll kick youe butt.  Or, Jon will sing Prince 
songs to you.  Whichever you'd like the least.

2)  If you have a question about some aspect of ftp service or some
other area of your computer, please ask around at your site first.  Don't 
immediately fire off all of your questions to us.  I don't mind answering
questions about the archive, problems with logging in, or something
similar.  But I tend to get upset when people ask me questions like, 
"Jeff, how come I can't get the fgrep command to work properly on
my sparc station...."

3) Please try to upload files that you know the archive doesn't have.  I
know it's not the greatest thing to do, but if you can find time to
download stuff, I think you can find time to return the favor and
upload things also.


If you have any reasonable questions, any comments or concerns, etc.
please mail them to me, weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu.

Thanks,
weiner


--
Jeff Weiner    	weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu	     Jeff_Weiner@ub.cc.umich.edu
    Mail Dennis_Devine@ub.cc.umich.edu and ask if he'd like to be the pope 
Atari.archive.umich.edu Caretaker||194M and climbin'|| "So like take off eh?" 

weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Jeff Weiner) (05/23/91)

This is a basic guide to ftp.  It is intended only to get you on your
way to ftp happiness.  Please let me know if you have any comments,
questions, or suggestions.  

weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			Jeff Weiner's FTP Basics Vol.1 #1


Part 1: Logging in
To begin an ftp session, the first thing you need to do is log in to our
machine.  You can do this by issuing the 'ftp atari.archive.umich.edu'
command.  You should then see something like this:

Connected to atari.archive.umich.edu.
220 atari.archive.umich.edu FTP server (Version 4.169 Wed Jan 2 17:03:56 EST 199
1) ready.
Name (yourhost.domain.edu:yourusername):

At this prompt you'll want to type 'anonymous'.  On some hosts, the word
'guest' will work, but 'anonymous' is always a sure bet.

If you don't see this login prompt, but instead get something like
'Our host was unable to trace a name back to (some internet address).
 We only accept ftp from properly registered hosts', then you'll have to
ask your sys-admin to properly register your machine in its name servers.
There's nothing we can do on this end, so please don't bother asking.
Also, if your machine doesn't allow you to specify the atari.archive name,
try using out internet address : 141.211.164.8  Then, march down to
your sys-admins office and ask him to install name-service.  Your life will
become much easier.

Assuming you recieved the above prompt, you'll then be asked for a 
password.  Use your mail address. For example, I would use 
'weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu'


Part 2: Basic Commands
Once you're logged on, there's a few basic commands you'll want to know about.

ls  : lists the names of files of sub-directories in a directory.
ls -C  : Lists the files horizontally, instead of vertically.
ls -F : Lists filenames, but adds a / to the end of directory names.
dir : does the same thing as ls, but is needed on some other machines
ls -l : A verbose listing of files.  Includes permissions, filesize, etc.
cd  : changes directories (i.e. 'cd atari' would put you in the atari area)
cd .. : Goes 'back up' a directory, to the one you came from.

This from redmond@IUS4.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU:
For more than one argument to ls, use double quotes.  Eg.  ls "-FC *.lzh"

These are about all you need to get moving around the archive.  


Part 3: Getting the Goddies

The main reason you want to ftp in the first place is to quickly transfer 
files.  More often than not, you'll want to transfer the files from
the archive to your account.  You can do this using the following commands:

First, find the file you want to download.
Second, issue the command 'type binary'.  This tells our machine that 
you'll be transferring a binary file.  This is really important.  You'll
waste a LOT of time if you download files that were not transferred in 
binary mode.
Third, issue this command 'get <filename.ext>'.  This will instruct 
the archive host to send <filename.ext> to your account.

The last thing you'll want to do is use the 'quit' command.  This 
tells our machine you're no longer interested in ftping files, and would
like to go back to your command prompt.

Now, you'll need to download your files from your mainframe(sparc, whatever)
to your ST.  Usually you'll want to use either kermit or x- or y- or z-modem
protocals.  They're very reliable.  I'd be quite hesitant to try something
else.  Also, your machine and ST are usually unique to you.  This means
that I really can't help you with this part.  You could try asking, but
I'm going to promise anything.

Part 4: A Few Words on Net Ettiquette

Net Ettiquette is something that every net user should be aware of. 
Relating to ftp, and our archive, it is essentially this:

1)  Try to keep ftp usage to an absolute minimum during business hours,
in our time zone.  That would be 9 am to 5 pm , EST.  This roughly means
upload or download one file or so and little else during these hours.  After
5pm, have a blast.  Go nuts.  We probably won't mind nearly as much.....
Otherwise, we will drive to your campus or place of work (even if you
live in Europe) and we'll kick youe butt.  Or, Jon will sing Prince 
songs to you.  Whichever you'd like the least.

2)  If you have a question about some aspect of ftp service or some
other area of your computer, please ask around at your site first.  Don't 
immediately fire off all of your questions to us.  I don't mind answering
questions about the archive, problems with logging in, or something
similar.  But I tend to get upset when people ask me questions like, 
"Jeff, how come I can't get the fgrep command to work properly on
my sparc station...."

3) Please try to upload files that you know the archive doesn't have.  I
know it's not the greatest thing to do, but if you can find time to
download stuff, I think you can find time to return the favor and
upload things also.


If you have any reasonable questions, any comments or concerns, etc.
please mail them to me, weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu.

Thanks,
weiner


--
Jeff Weiner  --- weiner@{{sklyab,felix}.engin, atari.archive}.umich.edu

weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Jeff Weiner) (06/24/91)

This is a basic guide to ftp.  It is intended only to get you on your
way to ftp happiness.  Please let me know if you have any comments,
questions, or suggestions.  

weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
			Jeff Weiner's FTP Basics Vol.1 #1


Part 1: Logging in
To begin an ftp session, the first thing you need to do is log in to our
machine.  You can do this by issuing the 'ftp atari.archive.umich.edu'
command.  You should then see something like this:

Connected to atari.archive.umich.edu.
220 atari.archive.umich.edu FTP server (Version 4.169 Wed Jan 2 17:03:56 EST 199
1) ready.
Name (yourhost.domain.edu:yourusername):

At this prompt you'll want to type 'anonymous'.  On some hosts, the word
'guest' will work, but 'anonymous' is always a sure bet.

If you don't see this login prompt, but instead get something like
'Our host was unable to trace a name back to (some internet address).
 We only accept ftp from properly registered hosts', then you'll have to
ask your sys-admin to properly register your machine in its name servers.
There's nothing we can do on this end, so please don't bother asking.
Also, if your machine doesn't allow you to specify the atari.archive name,
try using out internet address : 141.211.164.8  Then, march down to
your sys-admins office and ask him to install name-service.  Your life will
become much easier.

Assuming you recieved the above prompt, you'll then be asked for a 
password.  Use your mail address. For example, I would use 
'weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu'


Part 2: Basic Commands
Once you're logged on, there's a few basic commands you'll want to know about.

ls  : lists the names of files of sub-directories in a directory.
ls -C  : Lists the files horizontally, instead of vertically.
ls -F : Lists filenames, but adds a / to the end of directory names.
dir : does the same thing as ls, but is needed on some other machines
ls -l : A verbose listing of files.  Includes permissions, filesize, etc.
cd  : changes directories (i.e. 'cd atari' would put you in the atari area)
cd .. : Goes 'back up' a directory, to the one you came from.

This from redmond@IUS4.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU:
For more than one argument to ls, use double quotes.  Eg.  ls "-FC *.lzh"

These are about all you need to get moving around the archive.  


Part 3: Getting the Goddies

The main reason you want to ftp in the first place is to quickly transfer 
files.  More often than not, you'll want to transfer the files from
the archive to your account.  You can do this using the following commands:

First, find the file you want to download.
Second, issue the command 'type binary'.  This tells our machine that 
you'll be transferring a binary file.  This is really important.  You'll
waste a LOT of time if you download files that were not transferred in 
binary mode.
Third, issue this command 'get <filename.ext>'.  This will instruct 
the archive host to send <filename.ext> to your account.

The last thing you'll want to do is use the 'quit' command.  This 
tells our machine you're no longer interested in ftping files, and would
like to go back to your command prompt.

Now, you'll need to download your files from your mainframe(sparc, whatever)
to your ST.  Usually you'll want to use either kermit or x- or y- or z-modem
protocals.  They're very reliable.  I'd be quite hesitant to try something
else.  Also, your machine and ST are usually unique to you.  This means
that I really can't help you with this part.  You could try asking, but
I'm going to promise anything.

Part 4: A Few Words on Net Ettiquette

Net Ettiquette is something that every net user should be aware of. 
Relating to ftp, and our archive, it is essentially this:

1)  Try to keep ftp usage to an absolute minimum during business hours,
in our time zone.  That would be 9 am to 5 pm , EST.  This roughly means
upload or download one file or so and little else during these hours.  After
5pm, have a blast.  Go nuts.  We probably won't mind nearly as much.....
Otherwise, we will drive to your campus or place of work (even if you
live in Europe) and we'll kick youe butt.  Or, Jon will sing Prince 
songs to you.  Whichever you'd like the least.

2)  If you have a question about some aspect of ftp service or some
other area of your computer, please ask around at your site first.  Don't 
immediately fire off all of your questions to us.  I don't mind answering
questions about the archive, problems with logging in, or something
similar.  But I tend to get upset when people ask me questions like, 
"Jeff, how come I can't get the fgrep command to work properly on
my sparc station...."

3) Please try to upload files that you know the archive doesn't have.  I
know it's not the greatest thing to do, but if you can find time to
download stuff, I think you can find time to return the favor and
upload things also.


If you have any reasonable questions, any comments or concerns, etc.
please mail them to me, weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu.

Thanks,
weiner


--
Jeff Weiner  --- weiner@{engin, atari.archive}.umich.edu