jdg@elmgate.UUCP (03/11/87)
In article <2740@well.UUCP> manx@well.UUCP (Jim Goodnow II) writes: >A bug in the 3.4a compiler which was found when compiling vt100 vers 2.6 >is fixed by the following patch program which will be updated if and when >any other bugs are reported. > I was just going to sit patiently and wait for my 3.40a Commercial version to arrive. After all, I've been patient since March 1986. But I'm afraid this patch blew a fuse is my head. Yeah, I know, many will be sure I never had a fuse....or head.. I paid 500 some odd bucks 13 monthes ago for a compiler. Good one, not great, but good, and waited for updates. And waited, and waited, and waited, and waited, and waited, and waited, and waited, and waited, and.... you get the idea. Now I'm getting patches for a compiler that, as far as I can tell, does NOT exist! Gimme a break! What are the odds that I receive the 3.4 update (within this decade) that has the patch already installed? Damn slim I'll bet (on both counts). Sheesh................ -- Jeff Gortatowsky {seismo,allegra}!rochester!kodak!elmgate!jdg Eastman Kodak Company These comments are mine alone and not Eastman Kodak's. How's that for a simple and complete disclaimer?
tas@mtuxo.UUCP (03/12/87)
Apparently Manx expects you to call them to order their complier upgrade. I called 201-389-0290; from outside of NJ I guess one would call 800-221-0440. Just give them your serial number, and they'll promise delivery in 4-5 weeks. Tom Skrobala AT&T mtuxo!tas
manx@well.UUCP (03/13/87)
In article <2547@mtuxo.UUCP> tas@mtuxo.UUCP (t.skrobala) writes: >Apparently Manx expects you to call them to order their complier upgrade. >I called 201-389-0290; from outside of NJ I guess one would call >800-221-0440. Just give them your serial number, and they'll promise >delivery in 4-5 weeks. > >Tom Skrobala AT&T mtuxo!tas Actually, all updates will be sent to registered users automatically. However, there are quite a few updates to be sent out. If you call the 201-389-0290 number, and give them your registration number, they will pull you out of the normal order (whatever that is) and send it sooner. If everyone calls, of course, this will have no effect, but then there must be at least a few people who don't read netnews. ;^)
billd@crash.UUCP (03/13/87)
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I got tired of waiting for the update myself and called Manx the
other day. They said that all of the 3.40a updates should be shipped
to commercial licensees within 6 weeks, I said that I didn't think was
very fast, and was told that if I would give them my license number
they would put me on the "priority" list and that I should have it within
two weeks. So I gave them the number, and we'll see.
They have a separate number for the update stuff it is (201)389-0290.
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INET: billd@crash.CTS.COMcjp@vax135.UUCP (03/13/87)
Get that fuse replaced, Jeff. Manx is definitely shipping 3.40a, I got mine two weeks ago (tho living 5 miles from the Manx office may have helped). As to paying $500 and getting no update yet: according to Manx president Harry Suchow, Commercial owners, and Developer owners who pay ~ $50 to upgrade (I'm not so certain about the latter) will be receiving, FREE, a source-level debugger in addition to the standard upgrade. (It reportedly won't be ready for "a couple" of months though). This should be a nice bonus, no? Support for the source-level debugger in already included in 3.40a, in the form of a compiler (linker?) option to produce the required auxiliary file; so apparently they are serious about this. Charles Poirier
walton@tybalt.caltech.edu.UUCP (03/13/87)
In article <580@elmgate.UUCP> jdg@aurora.UUCP (Jeff Gortatowsky) writes: > >I paid 500 some odd bucks 13 monthes ago for a compiler. Good one, not >great, but good, and waited for updates. And waited, and waited, and >waited, and waited, and waited, and waited, and waited, and waited, >and.... you get the idea. > >Now I'm getting patches for a compiler that, as far as I can tell, does >NOT exist! Gimme a break! >What are the odds that I receive the 3.4 update (within this decade) >that has the patch already installed? Damn slim I'll bet (on both >counts). I think Jeff has a valid point. I wrote a printed letter to Manx complaining about exactly this sort of thing in early December, and got nothing back. On the other hand, Marco Papa apparently got a set of Lattice libraries compiled just for him so he could use ALINK overlays instead of BLINK. On the other hand, I phoned in a VISA number for charging the $50 for my developer's package update on a Wednesday, and got the update the following Tuesday. I agree with Jeff that he shouldn't have to spend his own money to find out when he's going to get an update for which he's already paid, though.
cjp@vax135.UUCP (03/13/87)
In article <2547@mtuxo.UUCP> tas@mtuxo.UUCP (t.skrobala) writes: >Apparently Manx expects you to call them to order their complier upgrade. >I called 201-389-0290; from outside of NJ I guess one would call >800-221-0440. Just give them your serial number, and they'll promise >delivery in 4-5 weeks. When I called in February inquiring after 3.40a, they asked if I was a Commercial owner and when I said yes, they indicated that I was automatically going to be shipped the upgrade. This came to pass (although I did have to call again when my upgrade arrived sans manual; this has been corrected). Suchow at Manx says Developer owners are also scheduled to get free upgrades. I can't say whether they have to call in first. Perhaps (I speculate) shipping precedence is being given to Commercial owners. Charles Poirier
sean@ukma.UUCP (03/14/87)
In article <1799@vax135.UUCP> cjp@vax135.UUCP (Charles Poirier) writes: >When I called in February inquiring after 3.40a, they asked if I was a >Commercial owner and when I said yes, they indicated that I was automatically >going to be shipped the upgrade. This came to pass (although I did have to >call again when my upgrade arrived sans manual; this has been corrected). >Suchow at Manx says Developer owners are also scheduled to get free upgrades. >I can't say whether they have to call in first. >Perhaps (I speculate) shipping precedence is being given to Commercial owners. That is correct. They are shipping to commercial licenses first (you get what you pay for). They expect to have all the commercial versions shipped by the end of March. If you haven't gotten it by then, give them a call and ask why. Sean -- =========================================================================== Sean Casey UUCP: cbosgd!ukma!sean CSNET: sean@ms.uky.csnet ARPA: ukma!sean@anl-mcs.arpa BITNET: sean@UKMA.BITNET
kjb@nancy (Ken Basye) (03/16/87)
In article <2547@mtuxo.UUCP> tas@mtuxo.UUCP (t.skrobala) writes: >Apparently Manx expects you to call them to order their complier upgrade. >I called 201-389-0290; from outside of NJ I guess one would call >800-221-0440. Just give them your serial number, and they'll promise >delivery in 4-5 weeks. >Tom Skrobala AT&T mtuxo!tas I don't know what you were promised, but I was promised (and got) mine in less than a week. I've read several complaints about Axtec's update policy here, but I have none. When I read (also here) that 3.40a had been released, I called the toll free number, got another number (not toll free), called it and ordered the update ( I paid the $50 for the extra utils) and got it in 5 days. I don't know about the people complaining, but I'd rather they let me worry about contacting them for updates, and spend their time working on 3.x (x > 4). While I'm here, I would like to ask if anyone else who got the third disk with the utilities on it had any trouble with the demos included. When I saw them I was really pleased, and the most important one (to me) compiled fine (vt100). But some of the others, including the shell (2.04M ?) compiled but crashed the machine almost immediately. Is it my breath? I have about as vanilla a system as you can imagine, 512, 2 drives, no other addons. Thanks for listening, Ken (no aztec affiliation) UUCP {ihnp4|allegra|decvax}!brunix!kjb ARPA kjb%cs.brown.edu@relay.cs.net CSNET kjb@cs.brown.edu U.S. MAIL Ken Basye Box 1910 Dept. of Computer Science Brown University Providence, RI 02912