davidra@batcomputer.UUCP (07/15/86)
I'm looking for a good editor for programming under MS-DOS and have yet to find one. Ideally, I'd like to run vi or emacs, but I haven't the time to port those editors over. We do have a UNIX source license, so if anyone out there HAS a vi for MS-DOS, we would be very interested. Otherwise, here are some of our criterea for the ideal editor: - never requires the use of function keys, including the arrow keys (or allows control keys to be defined to do the work of all function keys) - doesn't turn tabs into spaces or vice-versa - has global search and replace Please reply to davidra@lasspvax; it gets to me there faster than at this address or a followup article.
rob@dadla.UUCP (Rob Vetter) (07/16/86)
In article <621@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> davidra@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Penguin ) writes: >I'm looking for a good editor for programming under MS-DOS and have yet >to find one. > > - never requires the use of function keys, including > the arrow keys (or allows control keys > to be defined to do the work of all function keys) SPF works best with function keys, but it is useable without them. There are alot of differences between it and vi. Most of them neutral tradeoffs, but some of them are good (ex. block moves, deletes, copies are easier), and some of them are bad (movement can be specified by line or character but not by word or sentence). Check it out !! -- Rob Vetter (503) 629-1044 [ihnp4, ucbvax, decvax, uw-beaver]!tektronix!dadla!rob " " !psu-cs!vetterr "Waste is a terrible thing to mind" - NRC (Well, they COULD have said it)
connery@bnrmtv.UUCP (07/17/86)
> I'm looking for a good editor for programming under MS-DOS...
General consensus is probably that there are THREE good editors available
for the PC commercially... BRIEF, EPSILON and KEDIT. All are heavily
configurable as to function keys. KEDIT can treat tabs either way, not
sure about the other two. EPSILON is an EMACS variant. BRIEF has the
best UNDO and better windows than anybody else. KEDIT will be the most
familiar without customization to someone with an IBM background. BRIEF
supports regular expressions the best. EPSILON has the most trouble
with resident software, but gives you multi-tasking windows to make up
for it. BRIEF and EPSILON have powerful script capabilities built in,
KEDIT relies on a Personal/REXX interface... take your pick.
--
Glenn Connery, Bell Northern Research, Mountain View, CA
{hplabs,amdahl,3comvax}!bnrmtv!conneryjohn@quad1.UUCP (John Crane) (07/19/86)
I posted a review of esp from Software Resources in Santa Monica a couple of weeks back. You can do anything with it that you can with the other editors that keep getting mentioned. I recommend it for both programming and word processing applications. Don't like function keys? Esp only uses the 10 standard keys, but you can map them to Alt+ or Ctl+ combinations in a startup profile and forget about them from then on. The thing I really like about esp is if you have a large amount of main memory, you can edit up to 10 large C programs and flip back and forth between any of them at any time. If you have a color monitor, you can color each file a different color so you don't get mixed up. The problem I have with emacs is that the commands are so cryptic. Also, how about ^P to move up one line. Ever try that with one hand? The problem with vi is that it is a line editor posing as a full screen editor. I think we should move the subject of PC editors to net.religion where it belongs. John Crane
cmoore@amdimage.UUCP (07/23/86)
In article <621@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> davidra@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Penguin ) writes: >I'm looking for a good editor for programming under MS-DOS ... I remember seeing an editor called 'Z', which I think was written by Manx software. They claim that it is vi compatable, and that "if you know vi, you know Z." I tried using it, found out it wouldn't handle a file over 64K, and gave up on it. If you're not going to edit big files, it might be worthwhile. -- =========================================================== Any project can be built with a handful of parts if you have big enough hands. Chris Moore (408) 749-4692 UUCP: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra}!amdcad!amdimage!cmoore