wecker@cookie.dec.com.UUCP (04/10/87)
In answer to WHY doesn't KERMIT run from the AMIGA to IBM mainframes: In typical IBM fashion, the world is required to be syncronous. At the end of each packet, the side sending MUST send a "turnaround character" giving up the line to the other side. When/if someone sends me the EXACT protocol I will add it to VT100, until that time KERMIT (from VT100) will not be able to talk to IBM hosts. Sorry folks... but that's the best I can do. dave
jxc@rayssd.UUCP (04/12/87)
In article <9241@decwrl.DEC.COM>, wecker@cookie.dec.com (DAVE CUM GRANO SALIS WECKER) writes: > > In answer to WHY doesn't KERMIT run from the AMIGA to IBM mainframes: > > When/if someone sends me the EXACT protocol I will add it to VT100, > until that time KERMIT (from VT100) will not be able to talk to IBM hosts. > > Sorry folks... but that's the best I can do. > dave No apologies necessary, Dave! We've all gotten MORE than our money's worth from VT100 (like Letterman says: 'Oh, yeah, and just HOW much did you people pay to get in here?'). It's a fantastic public domain program! People who want more should take the time to add it and post it to the network. That's how a good program gets better. Thanks again, Dave! ______________________________________________________________ | Jeffrey Jay Clesius, Raytheon Submarine Signal Division | | 1847 West Main Road, Mail Stop 188 | | Portsmouth, RI 02871-1087 (401) 847-8000 (X4015) | | { allegra | gatech | mirror | raybed2 } -----\ | | { linus | ihnp4 | uiucdcs } --------------->!rayssd!jxc | |______________________________________________________________| "Start with a 'NOP' and add functionality!"
zaphod@xanth.UUCP (Zaphod Beeblebrox) (04/13/87)
I don't know what you people are doing, but.... I have no problem using Kermit in the VT100 program while talking to an IBM. In fact, CKERMIT will not talk to the IBM, and I am forced to use the VT100 emulation program. Why? I dunno. Also, I have found that CKERMIT ( Amiga version of UNIX kermit) will talk to our VAX host, but not to an IBM. It's a screwed up world...... -- Chris Echard (804)-440-3940 UUCP: zaphod@xanth.UUCP Old Dominion University or: ...!seismo!harvard!xanth!zaphod Department of Computer Science CSNET: zaphod@odu.CSNET Norfolk, Virginia 23508 old ARPA: zaphod%xanth.cs.odu.edu@RELAY.CS.NET
ncreed@ndsuvax.UUCP (04/14/87)
The reason that C-kermit on the amiga doesn't work with the IBM, is because the parity is not set! I got my version of C-Kermit from kermserv@cuvma on BITNET, and it still contains this bug. In the CKICON.C module, look in the connect mode function. In about the middle of it, there is a call to the output a character function ttocq(c). This needs to be changed to ttocq(dopar(c)). There! It now works with IBM and sets parity correctly. According to the comments in the code, Kermit does its own parity checking and the serial.device is always in 8 bit no parity. I always use kermit on the mainframe and the vax. One thing you will notice is that the standard amiga keymap does not generate codes to be compatible with anything! I am in the process of writing a keymap module for amiga c-kermit to make it look like a vt100. Good luck! -----Walter Reed ----------------------- UUCP : ihnp4!umn-cs!ndsuvax!ncreed Bitnet: ncreed@ndsuvax OR NU105451@NDSUVM1 Walter Reed ----------------------
gator@rpiacm.UUCP (04/14/87)
In article <823@xanth.UUCP>, zaphod@xanth.UUCP (Zaphod Beeblebrox) writes: > In fact, CKERMIT will not talk to the IBM, and I am forced to use the VT100 > emulation program. Tried different parity settings? One of the most commonly asked questions on this campus concerning Kermit is "I can't get it to work, it just hangs..." Seems the IBM side won't do squat unless the terminal side is using even parity - leads to interesting situations where unsuspecting students call consulting and say student: "I can't get Kermit to..." consultant: "EVEN PARITY." This is an IBM 308x running MTS, probably not too typical a config. -- <.> <.> Eduardo UUCP: ..!seismo!rpics!rpiacm!gator / ___ \ Santiago ARPA: SANTIAGO@DEC | \ / | Munoz VOX: 518-274-9124 | V | |\ /| Generic Disclaimer Number twenty-seven-B-stroke-six: \\ o o // The above was generated by an overly precocious Amiga running \\___// an AI environment written in FORTRAN, under my supervision. \^^^/ It bears no relation whatsoever to the views of Rensseltute.