[comp.sys.amiga] Next Amiga

hatcher@INGRES.BERKELEY.EDU.UUCP (04/12/87)

In article <594@plx.UUCP> ed@plx.UUCP (Ed Chaban) writes:
>In article <15999@amdcad.AMD.COM>, tim@amdcad.AMD.COM (Tim Olson) writes:
>> Better yet, leap-frog *everyone* and put in an Am29000.  [ ... ]
>
>Oh Great!! now we can use an obscure CPU with our obscure operating
>system and bizarre Bus standards.  Use your HEAD man! Do you realize
>how much it costs to jump from one CPU to another?  How many Apple II's
>do you see getting sold?  Do you have it *IN* for the existing AMIGA
>product line?

Although the tone of this posting is a bit strong, I would nonetheless like to
extend personal thanks to Ed for his very good taste, in that he has finally
posted something to our group that is not even indirectly abusive of the
Amiga, and hence is not necessarily inherently offensive to the audience
here.
	Doug Merritt      ucbvax!ingres!hatcher

ed@plx.UUCP (04/13/87)

In article <8704120454.AA21439@ingres.Berkeley.EDU>, hatcher@INGRES.BERKELEY.EDU (Doug Merritt) writes:
> In article <594@plx.UUCP> ed@plx.UUCP (Ed Chaban) writes:
> >In article <15999@amdcad.AMD.COM>, tim@amdcad.AMD.COM (Tim Olson) writes:
> >> Better yet, leap-frog *everyone* and put in an Am29000.  [ ... ]
> >
> >Oh Great!! now we can use an obscure CPU with our obscure operating
> >system and bizarre Bus standards.  Use your HEAD man! Do you realize
> >how much it costs to jump from one CPU to another?  How many Apple II's
> >do you see getting sold?  Do you have it *IN* for the existing AMIGA
> >product line?
> 
> Although the tone of this posting is a bit strong, I would nonetheless like to
> extend personal thanks to Ed for his very good taste, in that he has finally
> posted something to our group that is not even indirectly abusive of the
> Amiga, and hence is not necessarily inherently offensive to the audience
> here.
> 	Doug Merritt      ucbvax!ingres!hatcher

Thanx Doug.  I'm *REALLY* impressed with the 2000 (Open Mouth- Insert Hat)
My only beef is the lack of an "Standard" operating system.  I can live
with the strange bus since Jobs is doing likewise at NeXT.

The 2000 is everything  the 1000 should have been.  I wonder if the 500
will be such a good idea since it will perpetuate the "Toy" image that
Amiga so desperately needs to shake.

Now, all we need is a port of USELESSNIX and a 68020 card. Apple's
price is too  high as far as the MacII is concerned. 

The question remains:
 
     Will Commodore embrace UNIX?

     -ed-

spencer@eris.UUCP (04/14/87)

In article <596@plx.UUCP> ed@plx.UUCP (Ed Chaban) writes:
>
>Thanx Doug.  I'm *REALLY* impressed with the 2000 (Open Mouth- Insert Hat)
>My only beef is the lack of an "Standard" operating system.  I can live
>with the strange bus since Jobs is doing likewise at NeXT.
>

Wow, I just heard this rumor that the new computer from Steve Jobs company
is compatible with the Amiga Expansion Buss!  Tell all your friends!


:')

Ok, on to my real question...

Today I got this piece of paper from Commodore that says:

"We would like to welcome you into the new Amiga Commercial Developers Program."

And it went on talking about all the lovely things they want to sell me.

The question is, is the 1.2 Native Developer Upgrade (Price - $20.00) any
different from the 1.2 Gamma Native Developer Upgrade package I already got?

Is it worth my time to get it?  I remember Carolyn (who this letter is
probably going to be answered by) saying that they were working on getting
together all sorts of things ready for some sort of Developers Package.
Is that this, will I be thrilled by all the neat stuff in it. :')

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carolyn@cbmvax.UUCP (04/15/87)

In article <3159@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> spencer@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Randy Spencer) writes:
>
>The question is, is the 1.2 Native Developer Upgrade (Price - $20.00) any
>different from the 1.2 Gamma Native Developer Upgrade package I already got?

There are some differences.

1. The release includes are slightly different.  For example, the Preferences
   variables modified by morerows are now listed in the public Intuition
   header.

2. The stripped includes are now correctly stripped.

3. The autodocs are the same.

4. I cleaned up the Readme's a bit (moved related items together, clearly
   marked references to items to be on future Software Toolkit disk
   since beta Toolkit is not part of the update, added some misc. DOS
   changes docs that I found, and added some more docs on the new
   DOS packets and their use)

   I also created 1.2 function offset lists for developers using languages
   which need base offsets to call system functions.  And I put a new
   Astartup.obj, my TWstartup.obj, and short tutorial called startup.doc
   on the disk.

   All of the new stuff on this disk is available elsewhere.  I posted
   the "New 1.2 Dos Packets and Structures" here and in BIX amiga.dev/docs.
   It will also appear in our next newletter.

   I posted a single list of offsets for just new 1.2 functions in
   BIX amiga.dev/docs.  Also the startup.doc.  And I put the startup
   sources in amiga.dev/listings.  I think I also posted them here.

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