[comp.sys.amiga] Sublogic Amiga Scenery Disk 7 bombs

hull@hao.UUCP (05/08/87)

Last week I got a copy of SubLogic's Scenery Disk 7 for Flight Simulator II.
I've been busy, so I didn't get a chance to try it until last night.  To be
brief, I couldn't get it to work, so I wondered if anyone else who has it
either has had the same experience, or knows what I am doing wrong.  I quote
the instructions below, followed by a description of what happens to me.

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Using a Scenery Disk with Flight Simulator
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Amiga

Load Flight Simulator II in the usual way.  When the program has finished load-
ing, remove the FS2 disk and insert the appropriate Scenery Disk. Pull down the
NAV menu as described in your operating manual. Select POSITION SET, and
then enter the NORTH and EAST coordinates of the airport you've chosen from
the directory for the region you'd like to explore (set ALTITUDE to 0). Close the
window, and press the [E] key.  When the disk drive light goes out, press [E]
again to log in the Scenery Disk.
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Everything worked ok up to this last step.  The disk drive light went on, the
disk was read seemingly ok (3 or 4 seeks), and all seemed ready for the 2nd
E to be typed.  However, when the E is typed, nothing happens.  In fact, it
can be determined that sometime during or just after the disk read, ALL
keyboard or mouse button input is thereafter ignored (except for Ctl A-A).
Mouse motion and reaction of the pointer is still ok, but a lot of good that
does when there's no reaction to buttons or keys.  So.  What's going wrong?
All disk activity is respect to df0: (it's even weirder if I put it in df1: !
I have tried this thing on both of my 512K 2-drive Amigas and have gotten the
same result on each.  The disk says "AMIGA" on it, and there is no mention of
any particular memory requirement with the package.  I may have to call them.
Thanks in advance for any guidance on this...
								Howard Hull
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hull@hao.UCAR.EDU (Howard Hull) (05/14/87)

Well, for the benefit of anyone else who gets the Amiga Scenery Disk 7
for Sublogic's Flight Simulator II, the manual is incorrect concerning
how to get it cranked up.  I got only one response to my query and that
person said they watched someone else go through exactly the same thing
I did.  So that gave me proper encouragement to try some variations.

I never did get it to work with V1.1 so to begin with, use a V1.2 KICK.
What you have to do is boot the FS2 disk in the usual way.  Then, quick
like a flying fox, before FS2 decides to enter DEMO mode, remove the
FS2 disk and put in the Scenery Disk.  Hit the E key.  The disk will be
accessed, and then you will be transplaced into the middle of a vast
green desert (because of the initial western US coordinates that boot
with the FS2 disk).  Open the NAV menu, select the POSITION SET option,
enter some coordinates from region 7, (the altitudes don't have to be
zero: use the intended location's altitude) and then close the P.S. window.
Now, hit the E key again.  The program will then relocate you where you
wanted to go.  Good Luck...
								Howard Hull
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cmcmanis@sun.uucp (Chuck McManis) (05/14/87)

In article <655@hao.UCAR.EDU>, hull@hao.UCAR.EDU (Howard Hull) writes:
< 
< Well, for the benefit of anyone else who gets the Amiga Scenery Disk 7
< for Sublogic's Flight Simulator II, the manual is incorrect concerning
< how to get it cranked up.  I got only one response to my query and that
< person said they watched someone else go through exactly the same thing
< I did.  So that gave me proper encouragement to try some variations.
< 
< I never did get it to work with V1.1 so to begin with, use a V1.2 KICK.
< What you have to do is boot the FS2 disk in the usual way.  Then, quick
< like a flying fox, before FS2 decides to enter DEMO mode, remove the
< FS2 disk and put in the Scenery Disk.  Hit the E key.  The disk will be
< accessed, and then you will be transplaced into the middle of a vast
< green desert (because of the initial western US coordinates that boot
< with the FS2 disk).  Open the NAV menu, select the POSITION SET option,
< enter some coordinates from region 7, (the altitudes don't have to be
< zero: use the intended location's altitude) and then close the P.S. window.
< Now, hit the E key again.  The program will then relocate you where you
< wanted to go.  Good Luck...
< 								Howard Hull

Sorry I didn't get to this sooner, I had a similar experience to Howard's
except that since I hadn't really read the manual I wasn't hindered by
following directions :-). Basically, I just boot up FS2 normally and
when I appear on the Airport at Oakland I swap out the FS2 disk with
the scenery disk. Press E, appear in the desert :-) and set the 
position with the NAV menu, and then reappear in D.C. (sorta like 
matter transmission). I didn't even have to press E again. What I did
do however was position myself on the ends of the interesting runways
and use the 'Save Situation' menu item to add them to the save situation
list. Then copied them onto the Scenery Disk (I know this is dangerous 
but hey the disk is only 25% full so why should I worry :-)) Now when
I load the scenery disk and type E, I follow it with a 'Load RAM from
Disk' request which puts up all those saved situations, pick one I
want to fly and (poof) I appear at the appropriate airport. I also
figured out why the darn thing 'chirps' when you change plane types
while sitting on the oakland runway. Basically they have the initial
altitude of oakland wrong by about 2 feet, and when you change plane
types you reappear as a learjet 2 feet off the runway and drop down
on to the tarmac! 

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