foy@aero.ARPA (Richard Foy) (05/28/87)
In article <1938@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> andy@cbmvax.UUCP (Andy Finkel) writes: > >..... flame content is rather high. ... >don't set the paper on fire, please, send it along. I've been saving >all the suggestions, comments, etc. that have come by on the net, >and many will be adressed in the next release. > >Here's hoping your next posting doesn't come across like we injured >your gold fish... > andy finkel I purchased my Amiga just a few months ago. I am not a programmer. I don't know C. The Amiga and its libraries are very sophisticated. By reading this net and getting bunches of Fish disks I am overcoming those obstacles to creating my own things on the Amiga. The large amount of flames and DESTRUCTIVE criticism of Commodore management slow down my reading of this net. I can tolerate that. But! Commodore management must have A LOT MORE SMARTS than most people give them credit for. They ALLOW andy and carolyn and george and others to provide the readers of this net with excellent assistance. They DELIVERED the Amiga 1000. What has Big Blue done will all there vast resources. What has Atari done with their marketing ability. I hope that Commodore has enough cash flow that they can put a BIG advertizing campaign behind the 500 and the 2000. If they do, I won't worry about the possibility of having an orphan. Richard Foy, Redondo Beach, CA The opinions I have expressed are the result of many years in the school of hard knocks. Thus they are my own.
ed@plx.UUCP (Ed Chaban) (05/29/87)
In article <11962@aero.ARPA>, foy@aero.ARPA (Richard Foy) writes: > > > Commodore management must have A LOT MORE SMARTS than most people give them > credit for. They ALLOW andy and carolyn and george and others to provide the ^^^^^ > readers of this net with excellent assistance. They DELIVERED the Amiga 1000. ^^^^^^^^^ What's this ALLOW stuff? As I see it, this is the ONLY way Amiga can *AFFORD* to provide support for the developers whose *SOFTWARE SELLS THE GODDAMN MACHINE* As for "Delivered" the Amiga 1000,"left out on the doorstep" is a better description. A kludged shifted-pointer-proprietary Multi-Tasking Operating System unfamilar to most programmers is a LOUSY environment to do development in. The lack of a Bus standard for many months F*cked things up even more. Fact: Big Time software developers cannot afford to train their staff to work in a new Operating System environment for a machine which makes up a TINY portion on the Personal Computer market. No return on investment, Kapeesh? > > What has Big Blue done will all there vast resources. What has Atari done > with their marketing ability. Is that a question? OK, Here goes: Big Blue (despised though she may be) remains a cornerstone in the marketplace. The stupidity of your question becomes evident when you examine the answer: BIG BLUE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ENTIRE INSTALLED BASE OF PEE-CEES AND CLONES! Can you say "Millions of Machines"? I Knew you could > > I hope that Commodore has enough cash flow that they can put a BIG advertizing > campaign behind the 500 and the 2000. If they do, I won't worry about the > possibility of having an orphan. Advertising will *NOT* sell the Amiga. SOFTWARE will sell the machine. That is the most important principle in marketing a computer system designed for the mass market. Sorry if I leaned on you a little heavily, after all your IBM question WAS pretty stupid don't you think? Wouldn't you rather that Amiga spend the money on improving the Sellability of the machine by providing an environment where software can migrate from UNIX systems without considerable rewrites? -ed-