[comp.sys.amiga] Interesting stats from news.groups

ali@rocky.STANFORD.EDU (Ali Ozer) (06/01/87)

(Just adding my kilobyte to the total...  8-)

For those readers of comp.sys.amiga who do not read news.groups ---
Brian Reid just posted his monthly USENET usage summary, and, guess what?
Comp.sys.amiga is climbing to the top, both in volume and popularity.
Last months estimated readership was ~8500 (if I remember correctly),
this month's is 12000. (Yes, UP 40%!) New hosts must have started
getting our newsgroup --- Comp.sys.amiga also appears in the top 40 list
of newsgroups with high propagation ratio (97% for comp.sys.amiga). Last
month it wasn't on that list. Comp.sys.amiga is also the newsgroup 
with the highest volume --- Apparently 3 Megs have been posted to
comp.sys.amiga during May, at a cost of $1.20 per reader. 6.3% of news
readers read comp.sys.amiga.

[For comparision, 7900 people read comp.sys.atari.st, 15000 people
 read comp.sys.mac, and 22000 people read comp.sys.ibm.pc.]

Ali Ozer, ali@rocky.stanford.edu

grr@cbmvax.UUCP (06/02/87)

In article <341@rocky.STANFORD.EDU> ali@rocky.stanford.edu (Ali Ozer) writes:
> 
> For those readers of comp.sys.amiga who do not read news.groups ---
> Brian Reid just posted his monthly USENET usage summary, and, guess what?
> Comp.sys.amiga is climbing to the top, both in volume and popularity.
> Last months estimated readership was ~8500 (if I remember correctly),
> this month's is 12000. (Yes, UP 40%!) New hosts must have started
> getting our newsgroup --- Comp.sys.amiga also appears in the top 40 list
> of newsgroups with high propagation ratio (97% for comp.sys.amiga). Last
> month it wasn't on that list. Comp.sys.amiga is also the newsgroup 
> with the highest volume --- Apparently 3 Megs have been posted to
> comp.sys.amiga during May, at a cost of $1.20 per reader. 6.3% of news
> readers read comp.sys.amiga.

Ali, this is not entirly a good thing.  If you look, comp.sys.amiga also
has the highest cost per reader.  One needs to consider measurements that
show the value of the group to it's readers and also the cost of the group
to the sites that transport the material buy have no particular interest.

Number one is a very obvious and precarious position.  I'd be much happier
to see us down around number 10-20 in every measure execpt readership...

It should also be mentioned that Brian's readership estimates, while the
best currently available, may or may not accuratly represent the real
world.

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stever@videovax.Tek.COM (Steven E. Rice, P.E.) (06/04/87)

In article <341@rocky.STANFORD.EDU>, Ali Ozer (ali@rocky.stanford.edu)
noted that comp.sys.amiga "is climbing to the top, both in volume and
popularity."  George Robbins (grr@cbmvax.UUCP) responded (in article
<1963@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP>):

> Ali, this is not entirly a good thing.  If you look, comp.sys.amiga also
> has the highest cost per reader.  . . .

Almost.  The actual "winner" in the cost-per-reader category was soc.women.
The "top 5" listing below comes from article <10153@decwrl.DEC.COM> by
Brian Reed (the article was posted June 1, 1987 to news.lists and
news.groups):

#define BEGINQUOTE

TOP 40 NEWSGROUPS IN ORDER BY PER-READER COST
A companion posting explains the statistics and the algorithms that produced
them.

       +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
       |     +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
       |     |     +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
       |     |     |      +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
       |     |     |      |     +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
       |     |     |      |     |      +-- Participation ratio
       |     |     |      |     |      |    +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/reader
       |     |     |      |     |      |    |       +-- Share: % of newsreaders
       |     |     |      |     |      |    |       |   who read this group.
       V     V     V      V     V      V    V       V
  1  7900   614   90%  1120 2637.0   141   1.60    4.3%  soc.women
  2 12000   899   97%   828 3049.5    69   1.20    6.3%  comp.sys.amiga
  3  5200   407   89%   498 1159.7    95   1.10    2.8%  talk.politics.misc
  4  1700   136   71%   178  383.4   105   1.10    1.0%  sci.philosophy.tech
  5  3700   291   90%   240  765.6    64   0.99    2.0%  talk.religion.misc

#define ENDQUOTE


> Number one is a very obvious and precarious position.  I'd be much happier
> to see us down around number 10-20 in every measure execpt readership...

Agreed.

					Steve Rice

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