beilke@puff.UUCP (04/06/87)
I have experienced a 'bug' in the way the Amiga handles large menus.
Now that there are a reasonable amount of fonts available, I thought I
would play with them, so I put them all in fonts:, then I brought up
DPaint II, to look at them. However, in XXX by 200 mode the menu is longer
than the screen, and Amy doesn't like it (I am visted by my friend the
Guru). My question is: (1) Does DPaint II have a design flaw in that it
did not anticipate large menus, or (2) is there something inherently wrong
with intuition? If the answer is (1) I can live with just not having a
lot of fonts in fonts:, but if the answer is (2), are there any plans to
fix the problem? Please, are you listening C/A? Take a look at how the
Mac solves the problem.
Thanks in advance,
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==============================================================================mwm@eris.UUCP (04/07/87)
In article <609@puff.WISC.EDU> beilke@puff.WISC.EDU (Matthew Beilke) writes: > Now that there are a reasonable amount of fonts available, I thought I >would play with them, so I put them all in fonts:, then I brought up >DPaint II, to look at them. However, in XXX by 200 mode the menu is longer >than the screen, and Amy doesn't like it (I am visted by my friend the >Guru). My question is: (1) Does DPaint II have a design flaw in that it >did not anticipate large menus, or (2) is there something inherently wrong >with intuition? If the answer is (1) I can live with just not having a >lot of fonts in fonts:, but if the answer is (2), are there any plans to >fix the problem? Please, are you listening C/A? Take a look at how the >Mac solves the problem. The problem is actually (1) (DPAINT bug), but some (2) is involved. The Intuition Menu system is _very_ unforgiving if the menus are "non-standard" in some way. For instance, if you have a menu with no entries, expect your Amiga to go off the deep end. Likewise, if your menu is longer than the screen, expect odd results (I got funny screen wraps with 1.1; I now code to avoid it, so haven't seen what it does for 1.2. For all I know, 1.2 doesn't die with empty menus.). However, any program dealing dynamic menu creation should check the menu to see if it's going to walk off the bottom of the screen, and wrap it to another column if it does. Likewise, it should check to see if the column is going to stick past the edge of the screen, and do something appropriate if that's the case. The "correct" solution for menus that stick past the end of the screen, as far as I'm concerned, is either a requestor instead of a menu, or a menu entry for paging the menu back and forth. But on a 640 x 200 screen, you get (roughly - your mileage will vary) 5 menus by 20 entries, or 100 entries. Having more files (or fonts, or whatever) than that is rare (Fish disk #13 being one of the few examples) so I punted, and just indicated that there was more. <mike -- Here's a song about absolutely nothing. Mike Meyer It's not about me, not about anyone else, ucbvax!mwm Not about love, not about being young. mwm@berkeley.edu Not about anything else, either. mwm@ucbjade.BITNET
andy@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Andy Finkel) (06/04/87)
In article <609@puff.WISC.EDU> beilke@puff.WISC.EDU (Matthew Beilke) writes: > > I have experienced a 'bug' in the way the Amiga handles large menus. > > Now that there are a reasonable amount of fonts available, I thought I >would play with them, so I put them all in fonts:, then I brought up >DPaint II, to look at them. However, in XXX by 200 mode the menu is longer >than the screen, and Amy doesn't like it (I am visted by my friend the >Guru). My question is: (1) Does DPaint II have a design flaw in that it >did not anticipate large menus, or (2) is there something inherently wrong >with intuition? This is a Dpaint bug. (which is shared by other programs). If the programmer feeds Intuition a bad menu structure, Intuition attempts to display it with predictable results. Notepad, for instance, has code to set up the font menu for large numbers of fonts. (Unfortunately we recently discovered that it breaks at about 100 fonts, but that's a different problem) -- andy finkel {ihnp4|seismo|allegra}!cbmvax!andy Commodore/Amiga "An end is always a new beginning." - Captain Cloud Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share. I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colorSer