gary@eddie.MIT.EDU (Gary Samad) (06/10/87)
That's right! At COMDEX, Rich McIntyre (sp?) the VP of Sales and Marketing personally announced that there WILL be an upgrade policy! No specific details yet, though... And, by the way, he is a VERY effective speaker. I'm glad to have him handling Sales and Marketing for Commodore! Gary
spencer@eris.UUCP (06/11/87)
In article <6057@eddie.MIT.EDU> gary@eddie.MIT.EDU (Gary Samad) writes: >That's right! At COMDEX, Rich McIntyre (sp?) the VP of Sales and Marketing >personally announced that there WILL be an upgrade policy! No specific >details yet, though... > > Gary I spoke to my local dealer here in Berkeley, seems that before the Comdex show there was a Commodore Dealer meeting. They put up all these dealers in a hotel in Atlanta (or at least in the distant suburbs) and told them what was up. So He tells me that the deals is this: the 2000 is going to list for $2495 and that if you bring in your old 1000 and $1000 you can get a 2000 (since 1+1=2). The list for the 2000 is much higher than before (when we heard $1500). Two things happened, one: they looked around and saw that their machine did all sorts of special things that others didn't and decided it was worth more. The other thing that happened was that they decided to include the bridge card in the list price (what else are the slots good for?). So figure that you are getting the virgin 2000 for just under $2000. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Randy Spencer P.O. Box 4542 Berkeley CA 94704 (415)284-4740 I N F I N I T Y BBS: (415)283-5469 Now working for |||||||||||::::... . . BUD-LINX But in no way |||||||||||||||::::.. .. . Officially representing ||||||||||||:::::... .. ....ucbvax!mica!spencer s o f t w a r e spencer@mica.berkeley.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
higgin@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Paul Higginbottom SALES) (06/13/87)
In article <3928@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> spencer@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Randy Spencer) writes:
$I spoke to my local dealer here in Berkeley...
$So He tells me that the deals is this:
$the 2000 is going to list for $2495...
The suggested list for the A2000 is $1995. I suppose the dealer may have
given you a price for a system including a monitor, or including the
Bridgeboard (both $495 extra, suggested list).
$The other thing that happened was that they
$decided to include the bridge card in the list
$price (what else are the slots good for?).
The Bridgeboard is an OPTION.
We are not quoting a suggested retail of $2495, we say $1995, and the
Bridgeboard has a suggested retail of $499.
While it is true that the PC slots are not worth a lot without the
Bridgeboard, this does not apply to "slots" in general on the A2000.
There are *5* Amiga slots, a CPU expansion slot, and a video slot, in
addition to the 4 PC slots (one of which must be filled with the
Bridgeboard).
Also, these are SUGGESTED RETAILS from Commodore. What the dealers
decide to charge is up to them.
$Randy Spencer P.O. Box 4542 Berkeley CA 94704 (415)284-4740
Paul Higginbottom, Amiga Sales Support Manager.
karl@sugar.UUCP (Karl Lehenbauer) (06/13/87)
In article <6057@eddie.MIT.EDU>, gary@eddie.MIT.EDU (Gary Samad) writes: > That's right! At COMDEX, Rich McIntyre (sp?) the VP of Sales and Marketing > personally announced that there WILL be an upgrade policy! No specific > details yet, though... My local Amiga dealer just had a big bash introducing the 500 and 2000, cutting deals on software, etc. etc. and they had docs saying that one could upgrade from the 1000 to the 2000 for $1000. In my opinion, though, it isn't a good idea to trade up because the advantages of the 2000 are vapor until cheap hard disks, coprocessors (68020?), memory and such become commercially available. Also, the 1000 was being routinely discounted by as much as 25% within a few months of its introduction. If it's the same for the 2000, you should be able to buy one outright for $1000 (minus monitor of course, you have one, right?) in a few months and keep your 1000 as a doorstop or whatever. -- uucp: {shell,rice,seismo}!soma!uhnix1!sugar!karl bbs: (713) 933-2440 voice: (713) 933-9134
peter@sugar.UUCP (Peter DaSilva) (06/13/87)
The latest rumor I have seen is a C=128->Amiga-500 upgrade policy. Nobody in their right minds would miss out on this one.
hbo@ucsbcsl.UUCP (Howard Owen) (06/15/87)
In message <3928@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> spencer@eris.BERKLEY.EDU Says: >the 2000 is going to list for $2495 and that if you bring in your old >1000 and $1000 you can get a 2000 (since 1+1=2). The list for the 2000 And: >things that others didn't and decided it was worth more. The other thing >that happened was that they decided to include the bridge card in the list >price (what else are the slots good for?). So figure that you are getting This sure sounds like you get an A2000 WITH bridge card on the trade in. Any comments? -- Howard Owen, Programmer/Analyst PHYSNET: SBPHY::HBO University of California, Santa Barbara BITNET: HBO@SBITP Physics Computer Services ARPA: hbo%sbphy@LBL.ARPA usenet: ucbvax!ucsbcsl!sbphy!hbo Disclaimer: "Out, brief candle.. Oh! I thought you said `declaim.'"
eric@hippo.UUCP (Eric Bergan) (06/16/87)
In article <174@sugar.UUCP>, karl@sugar.UUCP (Karl Lehenbauer) writes: > Also, the 1000 was being routinely discounted by as much as 25% within > a few months of its introduction. If it's the same for the 2000, you > should be able to buy one outright for $1000 (minus monitor of course, > you have one, right?) in a few months and keep your 1000 as a doorstop > or whatever. Not sure this is completely correct. If memory serves, the going price for a 2000 is $1995. This price does not include monitor. Therefore a 25% discount yields a $1500 price tag - still more than the $1000 for an upgrade. -- eric ...!ptsfa!hippo!eric
cmcmanis@pepper.UUCP (06/16/87)
In article <174@sugar.UUCP> karl@sugar.UUCP (Karl Lehenbauer) writes: >In my opinion, though, it isn't a good idea to trade up because the >advantages of the 2000 are vapor until cheap hard disks, >coprocessors (68020?), memory and such become commercially available. One of the advantages of getting the bridge card for the 2000 would be the ability to plug in either a PC hard-card or PC internal drive (using the 5.25" cutout to support it). Either way you will pay about $400 for 20 Megabytes. So counting the Bridge card your looking at $995 for a hard disk (where have I heard that number before), but at the same time you do get PC compatibility. >Also, the 1000 was being routinely discounted by as much as 25% within >a few months of its introduction. If it's the same for the 2000, you >should be able to buy one outright for $1000 (minus monitor of course, >you have one, right?) in a few months and keep your 1000 as a doorstop >or whatever. Pardon me for correcting your math, but if the 1000 was discounted 25% within a few months and the same happened to the 2000 you would be able to buy it for $1500 not $1000. Frankly, I don't see Commodore pushing that hard for it. No offense intended, but the 500 puts Commodore marketing right back in familiar territory, it can be marketed like a souped up C-64. I am wondering though why it doesn't have AmigaBASIC in ROM though... --Chuck McManis uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: cmcmanis ARPAnet: cmcmanis@sun.com These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you.
glee@cognos.uucp (Godfrey Lee) (06/19/87)
In article <3928@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> spencer@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Randy Spencer) writes: >the 2000 is going to list for $2495 and that if you bring in your old >1000 and $1000 you can get a 2000 (since 1+1=2). .... The other thing >that happened was that they decided to include the bridge card in the list >price Does this mean for $1000 upgrade you get the bridge card too? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Godfrey Lee, Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1G 3N3 (613) 738-1440 decvax!utzoo!dciem!nrcaer!cognos!glee
higgin@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Paul Higginbottom SALES) (06/23/87)
In article <937@mouska.UUCP> glee@mouska.UUCP (Godfrey Lee) writes: $In article <3928@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> spencer@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Randy Spencer) writes: $>the 2000 is going to list for $2495 and that if you bring in your old $>1000 and $1000 you can get a 2000 (since 1+1=2). .... The other thing $>that happened was that they decided to include the bridge card in the list $>price $ $Does this mean for $1000 upgrade you get the bridge card too? $Godfrey Lee, Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, No, it does not. Randy's posting was either misleading, or incorrect. The suggested list of the A2000 is $1995, and the Bridgeboard (A2088) is $499, and so the combined list would be $2494. These two products are sold separately by Commodore, though. The dealer may merchandise them however they wish of course. Paul Higginbottom.