mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (My watch has windows) Meyer) (06/26/87)
In article <8706240717.AA06071@cory.Berkeley.EDU> dillon@CORY.BERKELEY.EDU (Matt Dillon) writes:
<>Everyone already has MicroEmacs, which is a better programmer's editor than
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< Well Excuuuuuuuusssseee me.
Sigh. Editors are a religious issue. That's why there are so many.
Can we *not* argue about editors here? We've done it before.
If you really want to argue about editors, take it to talk.religion
(where I pointed followups).
<mike
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Won't you let the water run. mwm@ucbjade.BITNETklm@munsell.UUCP (Kevin McBride) (06/29/87)
(...Flames abound about MicroTrashmacs vs. DME) Well, I'm using Gnu Emacs 18.something-or-other on my Sun at work, and I love it. I tried the MicroEmacs that came on my 1.2 Extras disk, and I don't like it that much. It takes up more room on my Workbench disk than I feel it's worth. I took it off my workbench disk, and I'm using TxEd. Even that's not great, but it's better than that Edit shit they give you on Workbech (Gack!) I can't comment about DME because I don't have it. But, from what I've heard about it, I'd like to give it a shot. Maybe I'll grab it next time it comes around. When it comes to editors, you use what *you* are *comfortable* with and to hell with everyone else. Sorry, but that's my opinion, to which I am Constitutionally entitled. If you don't like it, slime me. Of course, that will further entitle me to slime you right back.... :-) -- Kevin McBride |Disclaimer: These | harvard -\ Eikonix - A Kodak Co. | opinions are mine, | ll-xn ---adelie-----> munsell!klm 23 Crosby Dr. | not my employer's, | decvax -v talcott -v | Bedford, MA 01730 | So There! | allegra ------------encore
mjp@spice.cs.cmu.edu (Michael Portuesi) (06/30/87)
Keywords: klm@munsell.UUCP (Kevin McBride) writes: > Well, I'm using Gnu Emacs 18.something-or-other on my Sun at work, and I > love it. You're not the only one. > I tried the MicroEmacs that came on my 1.2 Extras disk, and I > don't like it that much. Have you tried Mike (My watch has windows) Meyer's MicroGnuEmacs? It has much the same flavor, the mouse interface is better than the Workbench Emacs, and it has more features to boot (the Workbench version doesn't even have M-x or key rebinding!!!) Try it, I really think you'll like it. I even compiled mg here on Spice for use as a "quick editor" for things like mail and news posts. > I can't comment about DME because I don't have it. I grabbed it when Matt posted it just so I could take a look at it. It has some nice features (multiple window editing in genuine Intuition windows plus iconification), but I felt it disobeyed enough Intuition guidelines that I didn't want to switch (apparently I'm not the only one that feels this way) . Besides, the power of having one universal editor across all the machines and environments I use is a good case for using mg. --M -- Mike Portuesi / Carnegie-Mellon University Computer Science Department ARPA: mjp@spice.cs.cmu.edu UUCP: {backbone-site}!spice.cs.cmu.edu!mjp BITNET: rainwalker@drycas (a uVax-1 run by CMU Computer Club...tons o' fun)
mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (My watch has windows) Meyer) (07/06/87)
In article <1222@spice.cs.cmu.edu> mjp@spice.cs.cmu.edu (Michael Portuesi) writes: <klm@munsell.UUCP (Kevin McBride) writes: <> Well, I'm using Gnu Emacs 18.something-or-other on my Sun at work, and I <> love it. <You're not the only one. But of course. "chsh /usr/local/emacs" :-). <Have you tried Mike (My watch has windows) Meyer's MicroGnuEmacs? It <has much the same flavor, the mouse interface is better than the <Workbench Emacs, and it has more features to boot Thanks for the kind words. If you've found *anything* with a better mouse interface than mg, let me know, would you? Now, on to the important part. Note that mg is "mine" only in the sense that I turned microemacs v30 into the original mg, and talk about it a lot. There are a half-dozen people who can be blamed for that editor. I'm not going to name most of them, because you're not liable to be familiar with the names (and because I'm lazy). The exception is Mic Kaczmarczik (Did I get it right this time, Mic? K[a-z]* is so much easier....). He did the original v30 and 3.x Amiga ports, including the intuition and simple mouse interface. He rewrote the tty interface to include my hot-mouse code, making it much more reasonable. He made all the menu code work in three modes (menu only, browser only, and browser + menu). He's responsible for there being a Manx version of the thing. He also did most of what little documentation exists. (Ok, 'cause he's known here: Randy Spencer hacked up the RMS Tutorial so it was correct for mg. Now, if only he would get me the GNU cron docs he was supposed to do long ago...). <Besides, the power of having one <universal editor across all the machines and environments I use is a <good case for using mg. Yup. That's why there's an mg at all - I wanted something that mimiced GNU as close as was reasonably possible on a small machine. That's also why mg (and the other microemacs') are - and probably will continue to be - larger than most other Amiga editors. We've got to put an extra level of abstraction between the editor and the machine. But what that price buys you is something that runs on every machine worth taking notice of (except for maybe the Mac). And is smaller & faster than vi on Unix systems. <mike -- Lather was thirty years old today, Mike Meyer They took away all of his toys. mwm@berkeley.edu His mother sent newspaper clippings to him, ucbvax!mwm About his old friends who'd stopped being boys. mwm@ucbjade.BITNET