CRONEJP@UREGINA1.BITNET (06/29/87)
Could anyone (or more specifically some one from Commodore)
tell me if the Amiga 2000 keyboard is compatible with the
Amiga 1000 system unit.
If it's possible to hook the A2000 keyboard up to the A1000
could someone give me the pinouts for an adapter from the
RJ11C on the A1000 to the 5 pin Din thats on the A2000 keyboard
Unit...
Also, if the hook up of the A2000 keyboard to the a1000 is feasible
what else has to be done.....
Presumeably the A1000 system unit has to be tolD what all those
extra keys mean.
Is that done through the Keymaps file in SYS:DEVS/Keymaps
or is some other form of magic required.
Thanks....
Jonathan Crone
<CRONEJP@UREGINA1.BITNET>
As if anyone REALLY cares what I have to say?????
wpd@athena.mit.edu (William P Doyle) (06/30/87)
<insert you favorite line-eater joke here please>
Along the same lines, (can the A1000 keyboard be hooked up to the A2000,) does
anybody know if it would be possible to plug the daughter board of the A1000
in the A2000? Sorry folks, but I happen to LIKE having my operating system
in easily modifiable RAM rather then fixed permanently in ROM. (Send your
opinions/objectoins about this to me, please, not to the net in general).
Anyway, the biggest thing that is keeping me from looking at these fancy
A1000->A2000 upgrades (other than lack of funds, which can be remedied,) is
the fact that I will be stuck with 1.2 in ROM. I personally have no complaints
with 1.2 now, but there has been enough discussion of "suggestions for 1.3"
that I could possibly want the upgrade in the future sometime. I am almost
afraid to ask how much Commodore would charge for the replacement of the ROMs
when they have already charged $15 for a simple update of the existing
operating system :-). Commodore, any comments? I would have mailed this
to you directly, but I think others might be interested in this as well. Also,
I can't seem to get mail to you.
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|____________________________________________|daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) (07/01/87)
in article <1032@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU>, wpd@athena.mit.edu (William P Doyle) says: > > <insert you favorite line-eater joke here please> > > Along the same lines, (can the A1000 keyboard be hooked up to the A2000,) Sure, just build the reverse direction adaptor. > .. would [it] be possible to plug the daughter board of the A1000 in the > A2000? Nope. The layout of the WCS tower is designed specifically for the A1000. The sockets wouldn't be in the right place even if you didn't have to worry about things like circuitry differences between the A1000 and A2000, and the fact that there's a large 200 Watt power supply where you'd want to place the WCS board. > Anyway, the biggest thing that is keeping me from looking at these fancy > A1000->A2000 upgrades (other than lack of funds, which can be remedied,) is > the fact that I will be stuck with 1.2 in ROM. I personally have no complaints > with 1.2 now, but there has been enough discussion of "suggestions for 1.3" > that I could possibly want the upgrade in the future sometime. When the operating system gets revised, there will certainly be ROMs available in upgrade kits. This is no big deal, we're doing this with C128s and 1571s right now. And the A2000s only require one ROM, not three like the C128. Most people appreciate the faster bootup times, and don't mind trading daily aggrevation at having to insert Kickstart vs. aggrevation during new system releases (certainly less than once per year) in installing the new ROM. And it's easy enough to do, the ROMs are always socketed. > I am almost > afraid to ask how much Commodore would charge for the replacement of the ROMs > when they have already charged $15 for a simple update of the existing > operating system :-). Commodore, any comments? Wake up and smell the coffee, man! $15 is too much? The 1.2 upgrade should be considered one of the all-time software upgrade bargains. EA charges more for Deluxe Paint upgrades! Or for an unprotected copy of the protected thing you just bought! Lattice charges $100 for its C language upgrade! And Lotus charges a couple of hundred to upgrade a lousy, stinkin' spreadsheet written for an 8 bit computer! $15 was practically a give-away. > | Patrick Doyle wpd@ATHENA.MIT.EDU | -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga Usenet: {ihnp4|caip|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh "The A2000 Guy" BIX : hazy "Catch a wave and you're sittin' on top of the world" -Beach Boys
foy@aero.ARPA (Richard Foy) (07/01/87)
In article <2059@cbmvax.UUCP> daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) writes:
#
#Wake up and smell the coffee, man! $15 is too much? The 1.2 upgrade should
#be considered one of the all-time software upgrade bargains. EA charges more
#for Deluxe Paint upgrades! Or for an unprotected copy of the protected thing
#you just bought! Lattice charges $100 for its C language upgrade! And Lotus
#charges a couple of hundred to upgrade a lousy, stinkin' spreadsheet written
#for an 8 bit computer! $15 was practically a give-away.
#
I agree! Many of my friends who believe Big Blue is the way to go pay hundreds
of $ for the equivalent. All software PD, FishDisks, Shareware, or commercial
for the Amiga is a bargain compared to that for Big Blue. I just hope that the
sales of the 500 and 2000 are great so things will get even better.
Richard Foygrr@cbmvax.UUCP (George Robbins) (07/08/87)
In article <3CRONEJP@UREGINA1> CRONEJP@UREGINA1.BITNET writes: > Could anyone (or more specifically some one from Commodore) > tell me if the Amiga 2000 keyboard is compatible with the > Amiga 1000 system unit. Yes, it is compatible. > If it's possible to hook the A2000 keyboard up to the A1000 > could someone give me the pinouts for an adapter from the > RJ11C on the A1000 to the 5 pin Din thats on the A2000 keyboard > Unit... I don't have this info handy, but only 4 pins of the din are used. Get the +5 and Ground correct, please, the other two are clock and data, and one way works, the other doesn't. > Also, if the hook up of the A2000 keyboard to the a1000 is feasible > what else has to be done..... > Presumeably the A1000 system unit has to be tolD what all those > extra keys mean. > Is that done through the Keymaps file in SYS:DEVS/Keymaps > or is some other form of magic required. All you need is a better keymap to activate the additional keys, since they were present as spares in the old key matrix. The map is include on the A500/A2000 workbench diskette, so perhaps we can uuencode it and post it... -- George Robbins - now working for, uucp: {ihnp4|seismo|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr but no way officially representing arpa: cbmvax!grr@seismo.css.GOV Commodore, Engineering Department fone: 215-431-9255 (only by moonlite)