[net.wanted] need cheap 1200/2400 baud modem

ccrdave@ucdavis.UUCP (Lord Kahless) (09/11/86)

Need cheap 1200 or 2400 baud modem.  $70 for 1200, $150 for 2400 baud.
Manual dial o.k., if the price is right.

stefan@wheaton (Stefan Brandle) (09/15/86)

Include me in any answers.  I have a student budget and $500-$700 modems
don't fit into that budget.  Volksmodem 1200's go for about $200 or so.
Is there anything cheeper and yet decent?
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gerber@mit-amt.UUCP (09/18/86)

In article <177@wheaton> stefan@wheaton.UUCP (Stefan Brandle) writes:
>Include me in any answers.  I have a student budget and $500-$700 modems
>don't fit into that budget.  Volksmodem 1200's go for about $200 or so.
>Is there anything cheeper and yet decent?
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>Stefan Brandle				UUCP:  ihnp4!wheaton!stefan
>I never claimed to be sane.

I've heard of an Avatex 1200, for $79 plus shipping, from Black
Patch Systems.  Call them at 1-800-ATARI-02.  As of this point,
all I've gotten is a busy signal.  If someone out there contacts
them, or finds a new source for these modems, I'd appreciate hearing
about it.

				-andy

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mark@cbosgd.UUCP (Mark Horton) (09/18/86)

In article <330@mit-amt.MIT.EDU> gerber@media-lab.UUCP (Andrew S. Gerber) writes:
>I've heard of an Avatex 1200, for $79 plus shipping, from Black
>Patch Systems.  Call them at 1-800-ATARI-02.  As of this point,
>all I've gotten is a busy signal.  If someone out there contacts
>them, or finds a new source for these modems, I'd appreciate hearing
>about it.

I've seen the Avatex advertised all over the place.  I know that,
for example, a local hacker-oriented store in Columbus called
MicroBatics carries them for about the same price.

The modem is said to be Hayes compable (except for some obscure
features) but I have no idea if it's any good.  It's a 300/1200
baud modem, as I understand it.

	Mark

lrj@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Lewis R. Jansen) (09/19/86)

In article <177@wheaton> stefan@wheaton.UUCP (Stefan Brandle) writes:
>Include me in any answers.  I have a student budget and $500-$700 modems
>don't fit into that budget.  Volksmodem 1200's go for about $200 or so.
>Is there anything cheeper and yet decent?

>Stefan Brandle				UUCP:  ihnp4!wheaton!stefan

  Concord Technologies sells a 1200/300 bps, "99% Hayes Compatible" modem
for about $130, last i looked.  They advertise in _BYTE_.

  A few months ago i bought one, and it worked perfectly, very clean
data tranmission, so on and so forth.  It WAS very close to a Hayes,
almost everything implemented (would not dial a '*' or '#' in touchtone).
They delivered (by UPS) in about a week and a half...

  Why do i say it 'worked' perfectly?  Well, you see there was this
thunderstorm, and someone forgot to disconnect the modem from the phone...
I know of no modem that can hande a several thousand volt surge/spike
coming in thru the phone line...  One toasted modem.

  Basically, i was happy with Concord's 1200 bps modem.

-- Lewis R. Jansen, LASSP, Cornell University

NOTE: I have no connection with BYTE, or Concord Technologies, apart from
	being an innocent (!) consumer.

jsm@vax1.ccs.cornell.edu (Jon Meltzer) (09/19/86)

In article <1051@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> lrj@batcomputer.UUCP (Lewis R. Jansen) writes:
>  A few months ago i bought one, and it worked perfectly, very clean
>data tranmission, so on and so forth.  It WAS very close to a Hayes,
>almost everything implemented (would not dial a '*' or '#' in touchtone).
>They delivered (by UPS) in about a week and a half...
>  Why do i say it 'worked' perfectly?  Well, you see there was this
>thunderstorm, and someone forgot to disconnect the modem from the phone...
>I know of no modem that can hande a several thousand volt surge/spike
>coming in thru the phone line...  One toasted modem.
>
WOW! I've never thought of that possibility! Any way to surge protect a
phone line?  

hsu@eneevax.UUCP (Dave Hsu) (09/19/86)

In article <2596@cbosgd.UUCP> mark@cbosgd.UUCP (Mark Horton) writes:
>In article <330@mit-amt.MIT.EDU> gerber@media-lab.UUCP (Andrew S. Gerber) writes:
>>I've heard of an Avatex 1200, for $79 plus shipping, from Black
>>Patch Systems.  Call them at 1-800-ATARI-02.  As of this point,
>>all I've gotten is a busy signal.  If someone out there contacts
>>them, or finds a new source for these modems, I'd appreciate hearing
>>about it.
>
>I've seen the Avatex advertised all over the place.  I know that,
>for example, a local hacker-oriented store in Columbus called
>MicroBatics carries them for about the same price.
>
>The modem is said to be Hayes compable (except for some obscure
>features) but I have no idea if it's any good.  It's a 300/1200
>baud modem, as I understand it.
>
>	Mark

You should be able to find the Avatex (Avatek?) for about that price from
numerous mail-order places, only slightly more from a discount retailer.

As for being Hayes compatible, well, they make two models: the 1200,
usually sold around this price, and the 1200HC (Hayes Compatible, what
else?) which usually goes for another 40-60 bucks.

-dave
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larry@extel.UUCP (Larry Pajakowski) (09/21/86)

I've had the Avatex modem test on a grunge box.  It works about the
same as any state of the art comprimise equalized modem.  Modems built
on the Rockwell chip set work better.

It uses the Exar chip inside for most of the dirty work.  It does lack
some Hayes features like disconecting on +++ and S registers.

I bought one since it works well with modem control signals and
consequently uucp.

For the price it is a good deal.

BTW the unit is make in Hong Kong.

	Larry
	ihnp4!extel!larry

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Larry Pajakowski
Extel Corp, Northbrook, IL
ihnp4!tellab1|extel|larry

ccrdave@ucdavis.UUCP (Lord Kahless) (09/22/86)

> >  Why do i say it 'worked' perfectly?  Well, you see there was this
> >thunderstorm, and someone forgot to disconnect the modem from the phone...
> >I know of no modem that can hande a several thousand volt surge/spike
> >coming in thru the phone line...  One toasted modem.
> >
> WOW! I've never thought of that possibility! Any way to surge protect a
> phone line?  

INMAC, the catalogue house, sells something that's supposed to
protect phone lines against such.  I don't own one, and have
no idea if it works.

rab@well.UUCP (Bob Bickford) (09/26/86)

In a previous article Mark Horton writes:
> Andrew S. Gerber writes:
> >I've heard of an Avatex 1200, 
    [mucho text deleted]
> 
> The modem is said to be Hayes compable (except for some obscure
> features) but I have no idea if it's any good.  It's a 300/1200
> baud modem, as I understand it.
> 

   I'm using one right now.  It works fine, is just as reliable as my
(borrowed) Hayes ever was, etc.   It is only Hayes compatible if by
that you mean that it accepts the same dialing commands.  In other
words, it does NOT support 95% of the Hayes commands.  Of course,
the ones it doesn't use are the ones that you as a human would
probably never use anyway (like turning verbose command response
mode on and off, and turning local command echo on and off, etc.)
The two things that I ***don't*** like about it are:
 1)  No speaker.  I would rather be able to monitor the call in progress
      without having to lift up my telephone (and then put it back
      down again, etc. etc.)
 2)  There is *NO* escape-to-command-mode command (the familiar
      Hayes  +++  sequence).  Since the command set is so limited,
      this feature is probably not important, but..... it bugs me.
      (I used to type   +++   AT H0     to hang up, now I have to
      press a button on the modem.)


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