billh@tekig4.TEK.COM (William Hansen) (08/24/87)
My dealer has these new flyers with new amiga products it shows a little gizmo called the 520 video adapter. It has what looks like a RGB port on one side and a pair of RCA jacks (why two?) on the other. It is displayed in a manner to look like a 500 accessory, but I thought the 500 already had composite output, so what exactly does this do? Bill Hansen billh@teklim.LIM.TEK.COM
grr@cbmvax.UUCP (George Robbins) (08/25/87)
In article <1844@tekig4.TEK.COM> billh@tekig4.TEK.COM (William Hansen) writes: > My dealer has these new flyers with new amiga products it shows a > little gizmo called the 520 video adapter. It has what looks like a RGB port > on one side and a pair of RCA jacks (why two?) on the other. It is displayed > in a manner to look like a 500 accessory, but I thought the 500 already had > composite output, so what exactly does this do? a) Composite *color* output (A500 output is nice clean gray-scale monochrome) b) RF modulator (see pretty colored blobs on TV - actually it's pertty nice...) -- George Robbins - now working for, uucp: {ihnp4|seismo|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr but no way officially representing arpa: cbmvax!grr@seismo.css.GOV Commodore, Engineering Department fone: 215-431-9255 (only by moonlite)
cmcmanis%pepper@Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) (08/25/87)
In article <1844@tekig4.TEK.COM> billh@tekig4.TEK.COM (William Hansen) writes: | My dealer has these new flyers with new amiga products it shows a | little gizmo called the 520 video adapter. It has what looks like a RGB port | on one side and a pair of RCA jacks (why two?) on the other. It is displayed | in a manner to look like a 500 accessory, but I thought the 500 already had | composite output, so what exactly does this do? If I were to make a guess (and I am :-)) I would bet that the little gizmo is a composite color + composite audio output. You need something like that to talk to a VCR directly. Add video/audio in and a selector switch and you've got all the inputs of a GenLock. (Note that the A500's built in composite video is a monochrome (greyscale) output for better clarity on mono monitors) --Chuck McManis uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: cmcmanis ARPAnet: cmcmanis@sun.com These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you.
bryce@COGSCI.BERKELEY.EDU (Bryce Nesbitt) (08/26/87)
>In article <1844@tekig4.TEK.COM> billh@tekig4.TEK.COM (William Hansen) writes: > My dealer has these new flyers with new Amiga products it shows a > little gizmo called the 520 video adapter. It has what looks like a RGB port > on one side and a pair of RCA jacks (why two?) on the other.... > ...so what exactly does this do? You read the sales flyer and your *still* don't know what it is?? What does this say about the quality of the sales flyer?! If I'd believed Commodore sales flyers I'd know that the Amiga can control "up to 50 overlapping windows" ^^ Who needs Jack Trameil (sp?) to spread mis-information when you can just use Commodore advertising? :-) :-) In case you don't get it... the Amiga can control as many windows as you have ram for. There was a sample program a while back that opened 150 windows at the same time. One of the principal features of the Amiga is it's "no limits" design philosphy. (Sources-> Spring 1987 Commodore-Amiga Buyer's Guide, page 2 and a Single sheet A1000 description from an Amiga dealer, about January 1987) If that A520 costs more than $179, consider the Mimetics ImaGen. I've seen the output... it is quite good. ImaGen gives a RGB pass thru, color composite video out and _genlock_ input for syncing the Amiga to an external video source. It fits all Amigas (A500,A1000,A2000). ImaGen is missing audio in jacks... a feature that the Commodore 1300 Genlock does have. |\ /| . Ack! (NAK, EOT, SOH) {o O} . ( " ) bryce@cogsci.berkeley.EDU -or- ucbvax!cogsci!bryce U "Success leads to stagnation; stagnation leads to failure."
grr@cbmvax.UUCP (George Robbins) (08/26/87)
In article <8708260954.AA21440@cogsci.berkeley.edu> bryce@COGSCI.BERKELEY.EDU (Bryce Nesbitt) writes: > > If that A520 costs more than $179, consider the Mimetics ImaGen. I've seen > the output... it is quite good. ImaGen gives a RGB pass thru, color > composite video out and _genlock_ input for syncing the Amiga to an external > video source. It fits all Amigas (A500,A1000,A2000). ImaGen is missing > audio in jacks... a feature that the Commodore 1300 Genlock does have. The A520 should go for quite a bit less than $179, though I'm not sure what the final list price is supposed to be. From what I've heard, the ImaGen should be a pretty nice device, however I haven't seen a working unit. -- George Robbins - now working for, uucp: {ihnp4|seismo|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr but no way officially representing arpa: cbmvax!grr@seismo.css.GOV Commodore, Engineering Department fone: 215-431-9255 (only by moonlite)
mikec@cbmvax.UUCP (Mike Colligon QA) (08/27/87)
In article <1844@tekig4.TEK.COM> billh@tekig4.TEK.COM (William Hansen) writes: >My dealer has these new flyers with new amiga products it shows a >little gizmo called the 520 video adapter. It has what looks like a RGB port >on one side and a pair of RCA jacks (why two?) on the other. It is displayed >in a manner to look like a 500 accessory, but I thought the 500 already had >composite output, so what exactly does this do? > > Bill Hansen > billh@teklim.LIM.TEK.COM The A520 connects to the RGB port of the A500 and provides several features. First, it provides composite color to monitors that cannot handle RGI. Second, it provides RF out to connect to a TV. You connect the left and right audio outputs of the A500 to the A520 via a Y-adaptor. The A500 has composite monochrome built-in, but not composite color. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Michael Colligon uucp: {ihnp4|seismo|caip}!cbmvax!mikec | | Quality Assurance Dept. arpa: cbmvax!mikec@seismo.css.GOV | | Commodore Business Machines or mikec@cbmvax.UUCP@{seismo|harvard} | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | "I say we take off; nuke the site from orbit. Its the only way to be sure." | | Corporal Hicks | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
hrlaser@pnet02.CTS.COM (Harv Laser) (08/28/87)
bryce@COGSCI.BERKELEY.EDU (Bryce Nesbitt) writes: > >If I'd believed Commodore sales flyers I'd know that the Amiga can control >"up to 50 overlapping windows" > ^^ >Who needs Jack Trameil (sp?) to spread mis-information when you can just >use Commodore advertising? :-) :-) >In case you don't get it... the Amiga can control as many windows as you There's an Amiga retailer in Los Angeles, name of "S.O.S. Computers" who frequently runs an ad in the L.A. Times Saturday Sports Section (chock full-o-computer-ads) which says something to the effect of "[The Amiga] can run up to FOUR programs at the same time." Although this text is accompanied by clip art supplied by CBM, I'm fairly sure the text came out of S.O.S. themselves. I haven't talked to S.O.S. and have no idea how they came up with the number "FOUR" as Amiga's multitasking limit but I wish they'd cut it the hell out. It's stuff like this that can be imbedded in the brain of a potential new Amiga owner, and foister the creation of yet another 'urban myth.' Harv UUCP: {ihnp4!crash, hplabs!hp-sdd!crash}!gryphon!pnet02!hrlaser INET: hrlaser@pnet02.CTS.COM PeopleLink: CBM*HARV ...I was reading my name on my office door.. "REGNAD KCIN"
ali@rocky.UUCP (09/01/87)
In article <2257@cbmvax.UUCP> grr@cbmvax.UUCP (George Robbins) writes: >The A520 should go for quite a bit less than $179... I was in Germany this past week, and in one store I saw this thing hooked up to the A500 --- It looked like the C64 modem, and it said "Amiga Video Adapter." The Amiga was hooked up to both a monitor and a giant color TV. So I imagine this "thing" was the (European version of) Amiga 520. The price? 59 DM --- About $35. I visited 3 large department stores (Horten, Kaufhof, Karstadt), and all had Amiga 500s. (Price 1200 DM --- About $660 (And no tax, of course)) Unfortunately, none had A501 expansions, and only two had the Amiga 1081 monitor (800 DM, $440). I brought saveral demos with me (to show my dad), and while I was showing it to him on the A500 in the store a crowd gathered around. Even the dealer was impressed (he had never seen the Juggler!) and asked if he could copy the disks. I gave him all the PD demos I had with me, and he was real happy... And when I ran good old Boing!, someone exclaimed "I saw that on the ST!". So I had to show them how the Amiga differred --- By bringing WB over and running Oing! at the same time. Anyway, it seems like PD stuff has a hard time getting over there, so, when you visit Europe make sure you bring some near PD demos over and give a few copies to your local dealers and friends. But, overall, compared to the last time I was there, I saw a lot more Amiga stuff (programs, books, mags, etc...). And I think I might've even convinced my dad to get an Amiga system. 8-) Ali Ozer, ali@rocky.stanford.edu