higgin@cbmvax.UUCP (Paul Higginbottom SALES) (09/16/87)
References: As I expected, the A2000 upgrade policy questions have been flowing into my mailbox. Here's a summary: (this one's only sorta related) > What happened to the free modification for Commodore color monitors >so they can use it for thier Amiga 500 upgrade? >A friend contacted all the Authorized Commodore Service >centers in our area and none of them say they do it. Is it the wrong >model (1902A)? The answer to the last question is "yes" it's the wrong model. Only the 1902 could be upgraded. Additionally, no-one (certainly not me) said it would be free. I said service centers could do it. > So as long as he's stuck with it as is, what's the best way to >connect it to Amiga 500 as is? My understanding is that it doesn't have >analog RGB. Correct, so he'll have to connect monochrome composite to the monitor or get the A520 color composite adaptor when it becomes available (one or two months). >We have been informed by local dealer that the A1000 must >be accoompanied by the 256k Ram, and the ORIGINAL manuals >and gifts. That's the dealer's choice. Original manuals is something we stipulate. "Gifts?" I don't know what you mean. >What about expansion RAM? I've got a Microbotics StarBoard, 2meg, with >a brand new multifunction board in it. It obviously won't work in the 2000. >Do you think the dealer would give me a trade on it? >Is there some sort of official policy here or is it up to the individual >dealers? I'm interested in upgrading but I don't want to throw away my >~$700 investment in my memory! Commodore's policy applies only to the A1000 computer. You'll either have to sell the memory card privately, or work out a deal with the dealer, or of course, keep it. >Also, on another topic... is there any way to put Kickstart BACK into an >A2000? Two reasons... first, I have a bunch of old brain-dead EA games that I >still use occaisionally, that only work with 1.1. I doubt if EA is going to >send out updates (they haven't yet). (I also have problems with other >publishers, but not as much as EA). Secondly, I just last night installed >NoKLICKstart and it's GREAT. After one night I probably couldn't go back to >those d*mn clicking drives again. Not to the best of my knowledge. This is because Kickstart 1.2 is now in ROM, and there's no WCS on an A2000. I'm sure someone will figure out a way though, with some tower, replacing the ROMs. Also, you may be able to get your games upgraded to 1.2 versions. As for clicking drives... I've noticed the internal drives on the A2000 are almost silent. You'd have to stick your ear right beside the drive to hear the clicking. Granted, an A1010 is still the same. I'm sure someone will figure out how to patch in something like NoKLICKstart after power-up (i.e., not in Kickstart). >Hi. What is the policy in Canada ? (A1000 + $???? = A2000) ? You'll have to call Commodore Canada. This is a national policy, not corporate wide. Paul.
pdg@hpcupt1.UUCP (09/17/87)
> > What about expansion RAM? I've got a Microbotics StarBoard, > > 2meg, with a brand new multifunction board in it. It obviously > > won't work in the 2000. Do you think the dealer would give me a > > trade on it? Is there some sort of official policy here or is > > it up to the individual dealers? I'm interested in upgrading > > but I don't want to throw away my ~$700 investment in my memory! > Commodore's policy applies only to the A1000 computer. You'll > either have to sell the memory card privately, or work out a > deal with the dealer, or of course, keep it. I went to a little Amiga show in Palo Alto last weekend where A2000's were being sold (and delivered!). I asked this very question of the rep from MicroBotics, and he showed me an A2000 with a StarBoard 2 in it. He had taken a StarBoard with Upper Deck and Multifunction card (2Mb and 68881), removed it from it's metal box, snapped another board onto it and put it into the first Zorro slot of the A2000. Despite its thickness, it didn't seem to block access to any of the other slots. This new board was almost empty. It just seemed to be there to juggle the wiring. Anyway, there it was (A2000 with 3Mb and 68881), working and impressive. He said the card was expected to cost about $40 and be available (you guessed it) real soon now. Paul Gootherts Hewlett-Packard Co hplabs!hpda!pdg Disclaimer: I'm not connected with MicroBotics, except as a customer.
richc@vaxwaller.UUCP (Rich Commins) (09/17/87)
. >What about expansion RAM? I've got a Microbotics StarBoard, 2meg, with
. >a brand new multifunction board in it. It obviously won't work in the 2000.
. >Do you think the dealer would give me a trade on it?
. >Is there some sort of official policy here or is it up to the individual
. >dealers? I'm interested in upgrading but I don't want to throw away my
. >~$700 investment in my memory!
.
. Commodore's policy applies only to the A1000 computer. You'll either
. have to sell the memory card privately, or work out a deal with the
. dealer, or of course, keep it.
.
The Starboard 2 now has a extender board for the A2000 so you
can plug your Starboard 2 memory board into the 2 inch wide
slot. The price of the extender board is $39.95 which I saw
advertised. I own a Starboard 2 with 2 Megs of memory and
a new multifunction board and think $40.00 to transfer the
memory was a great idea. It seems that Microbotics is going
to support its old customers. BTW, they also are advertising
a SCSI interface for their Starboard product.
Disclaimer: I am not assocated with Microbotics in any way
accept as a satisfied customer.
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{ptsfa,lll-crg,zehntel,dual,amd,fortune,ista,rtech,csi,normac}varian!richcnick@capra..UUCP (Nick Whyte) (09/21/87)
In article <1108@vaxwaller.UUCP> richc@vaxwaller.UUCP (Rich Commins) writes: > The Starboard 2 now has a extender board for the A2000 so you > can plug your Starboard 2 memory board into the 2 inch wide > slot. The price of the extender board is $39.95 which I saw Would anyone care to make claims about how this extender board would work with something like a 2000-n-1? Inquiring minds want to know. Nick Whyte ELXSI {ucbvax|ihnp4}!sun!elxsi!nick
c287-tb@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John Boyland) (09/22/87)
In article <556@elxsi.UUCP> nick@capra.UUCP (Nick Whyte) writes: > The Starboard 2 now has a extender board for the A2000 so you > can plug your Starboard 2 memory board into the 2 inch wide > slot. The price of the extender board is $39.95 which I saw ... >Nick Whyte >ELXSI {ucbvax|ihnp4}!sun!elxsi!nick How possible would it be to make a general purpose board which would allow all "reasonably" sized A1000 add-on's work with the A2000? Is size the only problem? John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Boyland boyland@ernie.berkeley.edu
perry@atux01.UUCP (09/22/87)
In article <556@elxsi.UUCP>, nick@capra..UUCP (Nick Whyte) writes: > In article <1108@vaxwaller.UUCP> richc@vaxwaller.UUCP (Rich Commins) writes: > > The Starboard 2 now has a extender board for the A2000 so you > > can plug your Starboard 2 memory board into the 2 inch wide > > slot. The price of the extender board is $39.95 which I saw > > Would anyone care to make claims about how this extender board would > work with something like a 2000-n-1? > Given that the 2000-and-1 will produce a completely compatible Zorro II backplane, if the MicroBotics adapter works in the A2000 it will work in the 2000-and-1. (And we fully expect it to). Would there be any interest from owners of all those other slap on the side memory board makers for ASDG to ``buy'' your old slap on the side dealies by providing a reduced cost for our 2MI's? That way you could maintain your two megabytes of ram (or less) at less than the cost one would normally pay for a 2 meg A2000 board. If there's interest - we'll put together a proposal - if not - then we won't. Perry Kivolowitz - ASDG Incorporated - (201) 563-0529
schein@cbmvax.UUCP (Dan Schein MAGAZINES) (09/23/87)
In article <556@elxsi.UUCP> nick@capra.UUCP (Nick Whyte) writes: >In article <1108@vaxwaller.UUCP> richc@vaxwaller.UUCP (Rich Commins) writes: >> The Starboard 2 now has a extender board for the A2000 so you >> can plug your Starboard 2 memory board into the 2 inch wide >> slot. The price of the extender board is $39.95 which I saw > >Would anyone care to make claims about how this extender board would >work with something like a 2000-n-1? > >Inquiring minds want to know. > >Nick Whyte >ELXSI {ucbvax|ihnp4}!sun!elxsi!nick I just happened to see this extender/adapter board on Sept. 13 and the only thing I want to point out is that in addition to plugging into a 2000 slot it has "1 - Jumper" that must be connected to the 2000. So this may or may not work with those 1000 into 2000 adapters. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dan Schein uucp: {ihnp4|rutgers|allegra}!cbmvax!schein | | Commodore Business Machines Bix: dschein | | 1200 Wilson Drive Plink: cbmtelecom | | West Chester PA 19380 phone: (215) 431-9100 ext. 9542 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | All spelling mistakes are a result of my efforts to avoid education :-) | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Quote: Those who worked the hardest Gary Ward - Oklahoma State | | are the last to surrender baseball coach | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
spencer@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Randy Spencer) (09/28/87)
In article <534@atux01.UUCP> perry@atux01.UUCP (Perry S. Kivolowitz) writes: >Would there be any interest from owners of all those other slap on the >side memory board makers for ASDG to ``buy'' your old slap on the side >dealies by providing a reduced cost for our 2MI's? That way you could >maintain your two megabytes of ram (or less) at less than the cost one >would normally pay for a 2 meg A2000 board. >If there's interest - we'll put together a proposal - if not - then we >won't. >Perry Kivolowitz - ASDG Incorporated - (201) 563-0529 I think that there would be interest in (in my case anyway) of a buy back for hard drive controller cards by providing a reduced cost for your SDP's. I would love to have one of those cards, and I waited, and I waited, and I waited. Well, I finally bought a CLTD (or two), and would love to upgrade to the SDP. I will theorize that the reason that it hasn't come out is that you want people to boot from a hard disk, if your card did that, then it would not only be faster than the CBM HD controller, it would also let the user boot, which the CBM one will not. Is that where it is at? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Randy Spencer P.O. Box 4542 Berkeley CA 94704 (415)284-4740 I N F I N I T Y BBS: (415)283-5469 Now working for |||||||||||::::... . . BUD-LINX But in no way |||||||||||||||::::.. .. . Officially representing ||||||||||||:::::... .. ....ucbvax!mica!spencer s o f t w a r e spencer@mica.berkeley.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
glee@cognos.uucp (Godfrey Lee) (09/28/87)
In article <534@atux01.UUCP> perry@atux01.UUCP writes: >Would there be any interest from owners of all those other slap on the >side memory board makers for ASDG to ``buy'' your old slap on the side >dealies by providing a reduced cost for our 2MI's? Yes, I would be interested, maybe an option to apply it to the 8M board also? P.S. Are you shipping to Canada yet? -- Godfrey Lee P.O. Box 9707 Cognos Incorporated 3755 Riverside Dr. VOICE: (613) 738-1440 FAX: (613) 738-0002 Ottawa, Ontario UUCP: decvax!utzoo!dciem!nrcaer!cognos!glee CANADA K1G 3Z4