[comp.sys.amiga] Some stupid beginner questions

UD140469@NDSUVM1.BITNET (10/12/87)

(strongly) about buying an Amiga 500.  Before I  absolutely finalize my
decision, I'd like to try to get some questions answered.  In an effort to cut
down on netmail, I'll post all my questions in one lump:
     
     Upgradablity:  I know the 500 has an expansion slot, but just what can be
                    done with it?  I assume that it can do what an A1000 can
                    handle (after the manufacturers make the appropriate
                    modifications to their products), but will it be able to
                    handle any of the goodies coming out for the A2000 (maybe
                    via a card-cage?)--goodies like an MMU, higher resolutions,
                    etc.
     
     More RAM or another disk:  Which do you find more useful--1 meg of RAM or
                                an external drive?
     
     RSISystems:  Has anyone ever dealt with this company before?  They have
                  the lowest price of anyone I've found ($544 for the 500 &
                  $120 for the memory upgrade).
     
     C, Modula, Pascal:  What's your favorite?  I gather that Manx and Lattice
                         are the favorite C's, but Manx seems to have a heftier
                         price (although I did see one place claiming to have
                         it at $120--can this be right?).  Are there any PD C's
                         out for the Amiga?  From the ads in Amiga World I see
                         a lot of places carrying TDI Modula--it would be nice
                         to have because I have it on my ST (should be fairly
                         portable), but how does it do on handling the Amiga
                         specific docs?  Lastly, MCC Pascal--is this as bad on
                         the Amiga as it is on the ST?
     
     Mac Disks:  Is there anyway to get the Amiga to read Mac disks (preferably
                 a non-hardware method)?  I know there's a program (DOS-2-DOS)
                 that will read IBM/ST disks, and if the Amiga could read Mac
                 disks I'd almost certainly purchase it (read them in to the
                 Amiga, write them out to an IBM/ST disk and port them over to
                 my ST's Magic Sac and run Mac software!).
     
     PD Stuff:  After buying the system and one development language, I'll have
                very little (read: $0) left over to buy any other software.
                What's a good source to get inexpensive (i.e. $3-$6 per disk)
                PD software?  I know the net's a good place to get stuff, but
                of course I need to get at least a terminal program & Kermit
                before I can get stuff off of there.
     
    Also, I'll ask my cable question again--anyone know of a place that sells a
cable that would let me hook an A500 up to an Atari SC1224 RGB monitor?  I've
found one place named KJ Computers (in CA, I think) that says they normally
keep one in stock (they're out now--I think they just make a new one when an
order comes in), but I'd like to find a place a little bit closer (also cheaper
--the guy I talked with on the phone didn't know the price of their cable, and
that makes me a little suspicious).
     
  Thanks for all the help!
     
     
   Scott Udell
   UD140469@NDSUVM1.BITNET
     
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bryce@hoser.berkeley.edu (Bryce Nesbitt) (10/14/87)

In article <359UD140469@NDSUVM1> UD140469@NDSUVM1.BITNET writes:
>     
>     Upgradablity:  I know the 500 has an expansion slot, but just what can be
>                    done with it?

Anything that can be done on the A1000.  This includes 68020 plugs ins, 8
Megabytes or so of memory and other goodies.  It is *not* as good as the
A2000 in this respect, but is servicable.

I suspect that someone will come out with a Zorro II card cage for the A500.
(Zorro II is the dezignation for A2000 slots).  This will give you everything
but the A2000's video slot and the CPU slot.  

More chip memory on the A500 is a drop in the chip and hit a jumper operation,
as soon as the chip become available.


>     More RAM or another disk:  Which do you find more useful--1 meg of RAM or
>                                an external drive?

The memory.  Then get "VD0:" and use it like another disk drive.  (VD0: is
the shareware recoverable ram disk from ASDG Inc.)  It's on a fish disk or
three and every 2nd BBS in the country.


>                         Lastly, MCC Pascal--is this as bad on
>                         the Amiga as it is on the ST?

Probably. Anything from Metacomco is to approched with care.  (Though V11
of the Assember is not too shabby, nor is the "disasm" from the toolkit disk)


>     Mac Disks:  Is there anyway to get the Amiga to read Mac disks (preferably
>                 a non-hardware method)?

It has been done by at least two people, in protoype.  I do not know of a
product you can purchase at the moment to do it, however.  Try the DOS-2-DOS
people.


>                 my ST's Magic Sac and run Mac software!).

Rummor mill says that Magic Sac will be available for the Amiga, and run more
software as well (Due to some Amiga<->ST<->Mac hardware differences that work
out better on the Amiga).  Don't know if it will read Mac disks directly,
but there is a good chance of it.  (*Forget* about copy protection, however)

>     PD Stuff:  After buying the system and one development language, I'll have
>                very little (read: $0) left over to buy any other software.
>                What's a good source to get inexpensive (i.e. $3-$6 per disk)
>                PD software?

The Fred Fish library has about 102 disks.  It is availabe everywhere, just
bring blanks.  Or if that fails, you can contact Mr. Fish himself:


	The per disk fee as of July 1987 is as follows:

		1 to 9 disks		$6 per disk
		10 to 49 disks		$5 per disk
		50 or more		$4 per disk

Catalog Disk

	There is no duplication fee for the catalog disk.  To receive the
	latest available catalog at any time, simply return the original
	disk, or send a blank disk, to:

		Fred Fish
		Catalog disk update
		1346 West 10th Place
		Tempe, Arizona	85281
		USA
		(602) 921-1113	  (Sorry, I can only return calls collect.)

	Please enclose a preaddressed mailing label to affix to our return
	mailing envelope, and sufficient postage for 2 ounces First Class
	mail (currently 39 cents but sure to go up again soon).


>    Also, I'll ask my cable question again--anyone know of a place that sells a
>cable that would let me hook an A500 up to an Atari SC1224 RGB monitor?

Try CABLE TO GO  1-800-826-7904  or in OH 1-800-826-0958.

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