agollum@engr.uky.edu (David Herron aka Admiral Gollum) (10/11/87)
Now wait a minute. I have Arctic fox, an A1000, and Amigados 1.2, and it boots just fine. So does the copy I made with QuickNibble. Heck, I never even *had* 1.1--the oh-so-nice dealer copied his beta copy of 1.2 onto our 1.1 disks when we got the system (without even telling us...). Kenneth Herron
billh@tekig4.TEK.COM (William Hansen) (10/13/87)
In article <1653@ukecc.engr.uky.edu> agollum@engr.uky.edu (David Herron aka Admiral Gollum) writes: >Now wait a minute. I have Arctic fox, an A1000, and Amigados 1.2, >and it boots just fine. So does the copy I made with QuickNibble. >Kenneth Herron Yes, but do you have more than 512K of RAM? Arctic Fox, (and One on One, and Rogue by Epyx) happily shuffle graphics and sound out to FAST ram where it is useless. It didn't work on my 1000 + Alegra under 1.2, and it doesn't work on the 2000 either. Thanks to the wonderful copy protection, it isn't easy to fix either. (Another reason to boycott companies who treat their customers like theives.) Bill Hansen billh@teklim.LIM.TEK.COM
lah@raybed2.UUCP (LANCE HOLMES) (10/13/87)
In article <1653@ukecc.engr.uky.edu>, agollum@engr.uky.edu (David Herron aka Admiral Gollum) writes: > Now wait a minute. I have Arctic fox, an A1000, and Amigados 1.2, > and it boots just fine. So does the copy I made with QuickNibble. > Heck, I never even *had* 1.1--the oh-so-nice dealer copied his beta > copy of 1.2 onto our 1.1 disks when we got the system (without > even telling us...). > > Kenneth Herron The problem with a game like Artic fox is not that it work with v1.2 or not its the fact that it can't operate with expanded memory (fast ram) like 1meg or more. And the protection sceem is such a pain because there is a different directory file on the disk. Can some one maybe elaborate on what trick is used so that the amiga knows where or how to boot up this disk?
carlos@io.UUCP (Carlos Smith) (10/14/87)
In article <1653@ukecc.engr.uky.edu> agollum@engr.uky.edu (David Herron aka Admiral Gollum) writes: >Now wait a minute. I have Arctic fox, an A1000, and Amigados 1.2, >and it boots just fine. >Kenneth Herron It doesn't sound like you have fast memory attached to the system, though. Many of these programs fail only when fast memory is attached, because the authors were not careful/had no opportunity to test that graphics dependant code was allocated in chip memory, rather than fast memory (for example, Arctic Fox was written before ANYONE had an expansion memory product for the Amiga. Even if they wrote it to use only chip memory for sprites, etc. they had no chance to really test it). Most EA games don't work on my system with 1.2 because the extra meg I have is auto-configured at boot time, and EA games have to be booted and don't run from workbench. To play them I must use KS 1.1, because it does not auto-configure the fast memory. Others that don't like fast ram, like Balance of Power, run from workbench so one can use a program like "fastmem" to allocate all of the fast memory before the program is run. For some reason, even this doesn't work for MindWalker, it just don't work with 1.2 on my machine, period. The sprites just get garbage when down in the brain cells. A mystery... -- Carlos Smith uucp:...!harvard!umb!ileaf!carlos Bix: carlosmith
blgardne@esunix.UUCP (Blaine Gardner) (10/17/87)
in article <1653@ukecc.engr.uky.edu>, agollum@engr.uky.edu (David Herron aka Admiral Gollum) says:
< Now wait a minute. I have Arctic fox, an A1000, and Amigados 1.2,
< and it boots just fine. So does the copy I made with QuickNibble.
< Heck, I never even *had* 1.1--the oh-so-nice dealer copied his beta
< copy of 1.2 onto our 1.1 disks when we got the system (without
< even telling us...).
<
< Kenneth Herron
Yes, but do you have any Fast RAM?
The problem CANNOT show up unless you have expansion ram.
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