spencer@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Randy Spencer) (11/21/87)
This is a question that I have been pondering for some time, so I want to conduct a poll and see what you guys think. Do we follow Intuition guidelines to the letter or blow them off because we see a better standard? To elaborate: Ever notice that the Amiga default pointer is lite from the top and the right. Ever notice that Mac windows have shadows to the bottom and to the right? (an obvious attempt to avoid the Look and Feel trials) Only problem is that I have only got one example of light coming from that direction other than the pointer, and that is the late coming 1.2 trashcan. Everybody else that I know puts the shadow or the gleam as if the light was coming from the upper left. To specify a few I have CLImate infront of me, I am using a disk icon I got that has a shadow, and I am running Drop Shadow that was written by the guy who is responsible for Intuition (pt.2), amiga!jimm. So should I go with the crowd or the obscure reference in the Intuition manual? Shadows look really funky going that direction, things have to stack up in a way that looks backwards to me, to have shadows visable. OK, the other question is: What are your favorite keyboard equivilants? Command Amiga Mac ------- ----- --- Cut Amiga-X Command-X Copy Amiga-C Command-C Paste Amiga-P Command-V (like 'down') Italic Amiga-I Command-I Bold Amiga-B Command-B Underline Amiga-U Command-U Plain Amiga-P (again) Command-P Undo Amiga-Q Command-Z Save Amiga-S Command-S Quit N/A Command-Q Ok, looking at them I see that Plain text is the same command as Paste. I see that Apple has a definition that makes sense, it is a mnemonic that 'V' means 'Arrow pointing down'. It is also right there with the 'X' (Cut), 'C' (Copy), and 'V' (Paste), all right next to each other. Both used 'U' for Underline, so they can't use it for 'Undo'. But then Apple went and defined 'Q' as quit, whereas Amiga used it for 'Undo', which doesn't help me much, I then have to make up my own for quit (since they didn't define that). The way I look at it it makes sense to follow the more thought out, and more wide spread Mac definitions. When we get impossible things like a double definition of a key, what do we do, we have to improvise. On the Mac there isn't any of that, you always know that if you want to cut something that you press Command-X and it is cut! Standard, always there! If I can't do it the way the Amiga is defined, I have to follow something, Am-i-wrong? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Randy Spencer oops... accidently deleted my .signature while mucking with it... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
cute@sphinx.UUCP (11/21/87)
In article <6016@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> spencer@eris () writes: >OK, the other question is: > > What are your favorite keyboard equivilants? (lists of various machines' equivalents deleted) >Ok, looking at them I see that Plain text is the same command as >Paste. I see that Apple has a definition that makes sense, it is a >mnemonic that 'V' means 'Arrow pointing down'. It is also right there >with the 'X' (Cut), 'C' (Copy), and 'V' (Paste), all right next to >each other. Both used 'U' for Underline, so they can't use it for >'Undo'. (other stuff deleted, to satisfy the Dark Lord inews) The only key equivalents that Apple requires (and then only for programs that have an Edit menu) are: Z=Undo, X=Cut, C=Copy, V=Paste. B=Clear is also suggested, but only if the program doesn't need to use B=Boldface in a font style menu. The only reason for choosing those particular keys is that they are all next to each other, right above the Command key(left-Amiga). Just thought you'd like to know. -- ...ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!cute (insert pithy quote here)