cks@radio.UUCP (11/18/87)
[Take this line, oh line eater, and leave my hard drive alone.]
There's got to be a better way of recovering crashed HDs than
DiskDoctor. I've had two fail on me now (both times I was writing to
the disk when the system guru'd), and each time DiskDoctor has barfed
royally and wound up moving around, deleting, and generally fouling up
about half the disk, all of which leaves me very mistrustful of either
DiskDoctor's accuracy or the normal state of my HDs.
So ... *does* anyone have a better way of recovering HDs than
DiskDoctor, Sectorama, and disked? Alternatively, does anyone have a
program that checks a filing system for integrity and tells you what's
wrong without trying to fix it (so I could go in with disked and fix
stuff up)? Source is preferred, but binaries are OK.
[Mail me a copy of your reply; news is flaky out here. I'll summarize if
there is interest, of course]
--
"Hey, that's why Dad moved to Colorado. He sits Zen now. Me, I like
the mountains."
Chris Siebenmann {allegra,mnetor,decvax,pyramid}!utgpu!radio!cks
cks@radio.toronto.edu or ...!utgpu!{yetti!lethe, darwin}!ontmoh!cksschein@cbmvax.UUCP (Dan Schein CATS) (11/23/87)
In article <580@radio.toronto.edu> cks@radio.toronto.edu (Chris Siebenmann) writes: > > There's got to be a better way of recovering crashed HDs than >DiskDoctor. There is! > > So ... *does* anyone have a better way of recovering HDs than >DiskDoctor. Use DiskSalv. Its on a Fish disk (sorry I don't have the # handy). It works with hard drives and unlike DiskDoctor does NOT fool with the original disk. >Chris Siebenmann {allegra,mnetor,decvax,pyramid}!utgpu!radio!cks -- Dan Schein uucp: {ihnp4|allegra|burdvax|rutgers}!cbmvax!schein Commodore AMIGA Bix: dschein Plink: Dan*CATS 1200 Wilson Drive phone: (215) 431-9100 ext. 9542 West Chester PA 19380 +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ All spelling mistakes are a result of my efforts to avoid education :-) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ I help Commodore by supporting the AMIGA. Commodore supports me by allowing me to form my own suggestions and comments.
daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (11/23/87)
in article <2836@cbmvax.UUCP>, schein@cbmvax.UUCP (Dan Schein CATS) says: > In article <580@radio.toronto.edu> cks@radio.toronto.edu (Chris Siebenmann) writes: >> >> There's got to be a better way of recovering crashed HDs than >>DiskDoctor. > There is! >> >> So ... *does* anyone have a better way of recovering HDs than >>DiskDoctor. > Use DiskSalv. Its on a Fish disk (sorry I don't have the # handy). It works > with hard drives and unlike DiskDoctor does NOT fool with the original disk. Uhhh, well, uhhh, that's half right (as opposed to half wrong, of course). The latest released DiskSalv, V1.0, doesn't muck with your original disk, and it's often much smarter than DiskDoctor. Unfortunately, it also doesn't work with hard drives, at least without being modified (the source is available, too). It was written under 1.1 (works flawlessly under 1.2, of course), and at a time when I didn't know anything about DosBase and device description vectors (the clever observer will notice that I know do know about these things, and a real, supports hard drives and other 1.2 stuff will eventually be forthcoming, maybe around the time 1.3 ships...). I'm a busy puppy these days. >>Chris Siebenmann {allegra,mnetor,decvax,pyramid}!utgpu!radio!cks > Dan Schein uucp: {ihnp4|allegra|burdvax|rutgers}!cbmvax!schein > Commodore AMIGA Bix: dschein Plink: Dan*CATS BTW, DiskSalv is MY program, not Commodore-Amiga's, so Dan's not confusing something that he's supposed to know about or anything like that. -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga Usenet: {ihnp4|caip|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh "The B2000 Guy" PLINK : D-DAVE H BIX : hazy "I can't relax, 'cause I'm a Boinger!"
phils@tekig.TEK.COM (Phil Staub) (11/25/87)
In article <2836@cbmvax.UUCP> schein@cbmvax.UUCP (Dan Schein CATS) writes: <In article <580@radio.toronto.edu> cks@radio.toronto.edu (Chris Siebenmann) writes: <> <> There's got to be a better way of recovering crashed HDs than <>DiskDoctor. < There is! <> <> So ... *does* anyone have a better way of recovering HDs than <>DiskDoctor. < Use DiskSalv. Its on a Fish disk (sorry I don't have the # handy). It works ^^^^^^^^ < with hard drives and unlike DiskDoctor does NOT fool with the original disk. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ < <>Chris Siebenmann {allegra,mnetor,decvax,pyramid}!utgpu!radio!cks < < <-- < Dan Schein uucp: {ihnp4|allegra|burdvax|rutgers}!cbmvax!schein Now where did I put that spare 20Mb hard drive to use as the DiskSalv output disk? 8-). Phil -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phil Staub "I do NOT approve. I merely said I UNDERSTAND." tektronix!tekigm2!phils - Spock phils@tekigm2.TEK.COM
schein@cbmvax.UUCP (Dan Schein CATS) (11/30/87)
In article <615@tekig.TEK.COM> phils@tekig.UUCP (Phil Staub) writes: >In article <2836@cbmvax.UUCP> schein@cbmvax.UUCP (Dan Schein CATS) writes: ><In article <580@radio.toronto.edu> cks@radio.toronto.edu (Chris Siebenmann) writes: ><> ><> There's got to be a better way of recovering crashed HDs than ><>DiskDoctor. >< There is! ><> ><> So ... *does* anyone have a better way of recovering HDs than ><>DiskDoctor. >< Use DiskSalv. Its on a Fish disk (sorry I don't have the # handy). It works > ^^^^^^^^ >< with hard drives and unlike DiskDoctor does NOT fool with the original disk. >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >< ><>Chris Siebenmann {allegra,mnetor,decvax,pyramid}!utgpu!radio!cks >< >< ><-- >< Dan Schein uucp: {ihnp4|allegra|burdvax|rutgers}!cbmvax!schein >Now where did I put that spare 20Mb hard drive to use as the DiskSalv output >disk? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Use the one you use for backing up your hard drive. What you use floppies too backup your hard disk? Sorry to hear that. Let me suggest the 2 drive method, `copy dh0: dh1: all' is real nice :-) > >8-). > >Phil Staub "I do NOT approve. I merely said I UNDERSTAND." -- Dan Schein uucp: {ihnp4|allegra|burdvax|rutgers}!cbmvax!schein Commodore AMIGA Bix: dschein Plink: Dan*CATS 1200 Wilson Drive phone: (215) 431-9100 ext. 9542 West Chester PA 19380 +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ All spelling mistakes are a result of my efforts to avoid education :-) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ I help Commodore by supporting the AMIGA. Commodore supports me by allowing me to form my own suggestions and comments.
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (12/01/87)
Has anynbody tried to use DiskSalv on a drive with 2 partitions? One goes bad then I do Disksalv dh0: dh0b:. Will it work? -- Marco
page@ulowell.cs.ulowell.edu (Bob Page) (12/02/87)
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) wrote: >Has anynbody tried to use DiskSalv on a drive with 2 partitions? One goes bad >then I do Disksalv dh0: dh0b:. Will it work? The current version of DiskSalv (1.0, April '86, Fish disk #20) will only disksalv from one 3.5" floppy (trackdisk.device) to another. ..Bob -- Bob Page, U of Lowell CS Dept. page@ulowell.edu ulowell!page "I've never liked reality all that much, but I haven't found a better solution." --Dave Haynie, Commodore-Amiga
daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (12/03/87)
in article <5473@oberon.USC.EDU>, papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) says: > Keywords: Sectorama, diskdoctor, disked > > Has anynbody tried to use DiskSalv on a drive with 2 partitions? One goes bad > then I do Disksalv dh0: dh0b:. Will it work? > > -- Marco That would work, IF DiskSalv supported hard disk. It doesn't; the code will assume an 80 track device that starts at block 0 on the trackdisk.device, so a hard disk can't be used easily. The output is done at the DOS level, so that wouldn't be a problem. Hopefully there will be a DiskSalv out before too long that supports hard disk correctly. -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga Usenet: {ihnp4|uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh "The B2000 Guy" PLINK : D-DAVE H BIX : hazy "I can't relax, 'cause I'm a Boinger!"