U613042@HNYKUN11.BITNET (Olaf Seibert) (12/08/87)
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Our local user group has another rumour. Also, quite unlikely, but anyway:
``Commodore would be solving the interlace flicker, in software, in V1.3''.
Not true, I guess. I don't think it could be done in software, can it?
Any comments, such as official denyals, are welcome.
By the way, in Europe where we have 50 Hz monitors, the flickering should
be MUCH more annoying than in America, with 60 Hz monitors.
On the other hand, this gives us 256 line screens, but when will programs
adapt to that? Not many that easily could (about any program...), do.
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Computers? Just say *YES*! Customs? Just say *NO*!page@ulowell.cs.ulowell.edu (Bob Page) (12/12/87)
I happen to know that Commodore is about to unveil a parallel (up to 24 processors) 68030-based machine at AmiExpo in LA, runs Berkeley UNIX, System V, MINIX, OS/2 and MS-DOS, VMS, AOS/VS, PRIMOS, MAC/OS and C-64 in windows (the windows can be Display Postscript, X, GEM, Windows, Presentation Manager, NeWS, Apollo's DM, Sun Windows or Intuition), has built-in 9600bps modem, Ethernet, 128MB main memory, 16 serial lines, two MIDI in/out/sync's, 4 configurable parallel ports, 6GB ESDI disk storage, built-in optical disk (CDI-ROM) player, floppy, mouse, keyboard, digitizer tablet, DWIM (Do What I Mean) AI interface, 24 blitters (one per plane), 32MB CHIP mem, 4k x 4k resolution screen, PAL/SECAM/NTSC and HDTV composite out, genlock, frame store, digitizer, 100 watt stereo amplifier, 64-voice synthesizer with any/all of FM/PM/Subtractive/Additive/Linear/Vector synthesis, 128MB/s Zorro III bus (with adaptors for VMEbus, NuBus, MicroChannel, UNIBUS, MultiBus 1 & 2, Q-BUS, Zorro I & 2 and BI-BUS). Oh - you can also take your existing A500 or A2000 and stand it on end in the expansion box (on its expansion slot), so it can also be used as a co-processor. Fits on your desk (about the size of the MAC SE, but the expansion box and power supply must go under your desk) and costs US$1299. I guess my first question: is anyone working on a TOS emulator? ..Bob -- Bob Page, U of Lowell CS Dept. page@ulowell.edu ulowell!page "I've never liked reality all that much, but I haven't found a better solution." --Dave Haynie, Commodore-Amiga
baer@percival.UUCP (Ken Baer) (12/14/87)
In article <2109@ulowell.cs.ulowell.edu> page@swan.ulowell.edu (Bob Page) writes: >I happen to know that Commodore is about to unveil a parallel (up to >24 processors) 68030-based machine at AmiExpo in LA, runs Berkeley >floppy, mouse, keyboard, digitizer tablet, DWIM (Do What I Mean) AI ^^^^ Actually, it's going to have DWIMN (Do What I Mean, NOW!!!) AI builtin. Who wants to be stuck with a DeepThot machine (as in Douglas Adams' HHGTTG). Otherwise, it sounds like an adequate home machine. Still, I won't buy it unless it has a knotch for my pen at the top of the keyboard. :-) -- -Ken Baer. // Amiga: The PC that CAN walk and chew gum at the same time. \X/ USENET - ...tektronix!reed!percival!baer OR baer@percival.UUCP "The Few, The Proud, The Criminally Insane - Oberlin Computer Science" - me.
kagle@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Jonathan C. Kagle) (12/14/87)
In article <2109@ulowell.cs.ulowell.edu> page@swan.ulowell.edu (Bob Page) writes:
!I happen to know that Commodore is about to unveil a parallel (up to
!24 processors) 68030-based machine at AmiExpo in LA...
![...]
!Oh - you can also take your existing A500 or A2000 and stand it on end
!in the expansion box (on its expansion slot), so it can also be used
!as a co-processor.
!
It's true! Commodore is abandoning the A1000! I think I'll trade up
to an IMSAI. Standard slots, a decent power supply, an excellent library of
PD software, and it'll run MP/M. No need to worry about obsolescence...
:-) :-) :-)
!..Bob
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!Bob Page, U of Lowell CS Dept. page@ulowell.edu ulowell!page
!"I've never liked reality all that much, but I haven't found a
!better solution." --Dave Haynie, Commodore-Amiga
-Jonathan
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for the wicked.richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) (12/14/87)
In article <2109@ulowell.cs.ulowell.edu> page@swan.ulowell.edu (Bob Page) writes: >I happen to know that Commodore is about to unveil a parallel (up to >24 processors) 68030-based machine at AmiExpo in LA, runs Berkeley [impressive technical spec. deleted] >synthesis, 128MB/s Zorro III bus (with adaptors for VMEbus, NuBus, >MicroChannel, UNIBUS, MultiBus 1 & 2, Q-BUS, Zorro I & 2 and BI-BUS). > >Oh - you can also take your existing A500 or A2000 and stand it on end >in the expansion box (on its expansion slot), so it can also be used >as a co-processor. > >Fits on your desk (about the size of the MAC SE, but the expansion >box and power supply must go under your desk) and costs US$1299. > >I guess my first question: is anyone working on a TOS emulator? Bugger that, does it run CP/M 68K ? >Bob Page, U of Lowell CS Dept. page@ulowell.edu ulowell!page .sig file lost in accident
keithd@cadovax.UUCP (Keith Doyle) (12/15/87)
In article <3173@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> kagle@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (Jonathan C. Kagle) writes: > It's true! Commodore is abandoning the A1000! I think I'll trade up >to an IMSAI. Standard slots, a decent power supply, an excellent library of >PD software, and it'll run MP/M. No need to worry about obsolescence... For Sale: IMSAI 8080 system: includes: IMSAI chassis/pwr supply/CPU board Z-80 CPU board 48k RAM, ??k ROM Tarbell Disk and Cassette boards 2 8" Shugart floppy drives with power supply Processor Technology VDM-1 Cromemco 7 channel A/D D/A board Homebrew keyboard Serial/parallel board CP/M software of all sorts S-100 proto board or two S-100 extender card buncha other boards and stuff I can't remember... A classic. Last home computer manufactured with binary front panel switches and blinking lights. Asking: $800.00 With A1000 trade in, $500.00. Keith Doyle # {ucbvax,decvax}!trwrb!cadovax!keithd Contel Business Systems 213-323-8170
hobie@sq.uucp (Hobie Orris) (12/15/87)
Olaf Seibert (U613042@HNYKUN11.BITNET) writes:
+
+By the way, in Europe where we have 50 Hz monitors, the flickering should
+be MUCH more annoying than in America, with 60 Hz monitors.
+On the other hand, this gives us 256 line screens, but when will programs
+adapt to that? Not many that easily could (about any program...), do.
+
+--- Olaf (Rhialto) Seibert... U613042@HNYKUN11.BITNET
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I can think of one program that supports PAL as well as NTSC: PageFlipper.
I wrote it.
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Come on Bob... C= could never sell that machine for the home market!
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UUCP: {hplabs!hp-sdd!crash, ihnp4!scgvaxd }!gryphon!pnet02!bilbotrudel@topaz.rutgers.edu (Jonathan D.) (12/16/87)
In article <2109@ulowell.cs.ulowell.edu> page@ulowell.cs.ulowell.edu (Bob Page) writes: > I happen to know that Commodore is about to unveil a parallel (up to > 24 processors) 68030-based machine at AmiExpo in LA, runs Berkeley > UNIX, System V, MINIX, OS/2 and MS-DOS, VMS, AOS/VS, PRIMOS, MAC/OS ... > Fits on your desk (about the size of the MAC SE, but the expansion > box and power supply must go under your desk) and costs US$1299. I hear Commodore's going to sell in the US it for $1495. Release date is Real Soon Now. Of course, this is why the people at CBM have been so silent recently...they're busy at work trying to finish the PET emulator (after all, how else can they run Ilaxian?) Jon
jxc@rayssd.RAY.COM (Jeffrey J. Clesius) (12/17/87)
In article <2591@gryphon.CTS.COM> bilbo@pnet02.cts.com (Bill Daggett) writes: >Come on Bob... C= could never sell that machine for the home market! You're right! That's why they're working on a model with an integrated keyboard for only $899. :-) ______________________________________________________________ | Jeffrey Jay Clesius, Raytheon Submarine Signal Division | | 1847 West Main Road, Mail Stop 188 | | Portsmouth, RI 02871-1087 (401) 847-8000 (X4015) | | { allegra | gatech | mirror | raybed2 } -----\ | | { linus | ihnp4 | uiucdcs } --------------->!rayssd!jxc | |______________________________________________________________| -- "All the world's a stage that we are going through."
bakken@hrsw2.UUCP (David E. Bakken) (12/17/87)
In article <2109@ulowell.cs.ulowell.edu>, page@ulowell.cs.ulowell.edu (Bob Page) writes: > I happen to know that Commodore is about to unveil a parallel (up to > 24 processors) 68030-based machine at AmiExpo in LA, runs Berkeley > UNIX, System V, MINIX, OS/2 and MS-DOS, VMS, AOS/VS, PRIMOS, MAC/OS > [etc.] > What about the surface to air missiles? Will it also do my toast for me? > I guess my first question: is anyone working on a TOS emulator? I won't buy it unless it has an IBM 360 JCL emulation mode :-). -- Dave Bakken Boeing Commercial Airplane Company uw-beaver!apcisea!tahoma!hrsw2!bakken (206) 234-2039 (generic) disclaimer: these views are my own, not my employers.