papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (12/01/87)
Now that Dan Schein has broken the news, it is no longer a "rumor". C= has in production the A2090A HD controller that will allow booting from the HD (unlike the old A2090 HD controller). For some of the people that have ordered (and paid) for the "old" A2090, it would be nice if C= would respond to the following questions: 1. Is the "old" A2090 still in production or not? 2. Are any of the old "A2090" available? [I doubt that, since we ordered our early Sept., DIRECTLY from Comoodore, and never saw it]. 3. Has the "old" A2090 been recalled [I mean not sent to dealers] waiting for the "new" A2090A to get into production? 4. Is the "new" A2090A in production or not? 5. When can developers and dealers [users] expect deliveries od the new A2090A? Maybe Paul at Sales has this data. Since he is no longer on the net, pass it on. Thanks. -- Marco P.S.: This is NOT a flame. I myself would love to have an A2090A instead of the A2090.
grr@cbmvax.UUCP (George Robbins) (12/03/87)
In article <5474@oberon.USC.EDU> papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes: > Now that Dan Schein has broken the news, it is no longer a "rumor". C= has > in production the A2090A HD controller that will allow booting from the HD > (unlike the old A2090 HD controller). For some of the people that have > ordered > (and paid) for the "old" A2090, it would be nice if C= would > respond to the following questions: Alas, poor Dan was only speaking in the "everybody knows Commodore will have to come out with a disk controller that supports the autoboot protocol" mode and there has been no product announcement. As such, your questions remain unanswerable, at least by those of us at the Peon level. Part of the A2090 problems is that the European were apprarently convinced that almost every A2000 would be sold with a Bridgecard, and once you had a Bridgecard it's cheaper to just use a standard PC hard disk controller and drive. This means that unlike the memory and Bridgecards, the A2090 wasn't already in volume production and probably warped sales estimates to boot. -- George Robbins - now working for, uucp: {uunet|ihnp4|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr but no way officially representing arpa: cbmvax!grr@uunet.uu.net Commodore, Engineering Department fone: 215-431-9255 (only by moonlite)
tdwest@lion.waterloo.edu (Terry D. West) (12/04/87)
In article <5474@oberon.USC.EDU> papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes: >2. Are any of the old "A2090" available? [I doubt that, since we ordered our >early Sept., DIRECTLY from Comoodore, and never saw it]. >3. Has the "old" A2090 been recalled [I mean not sent to dealers] waiting for >the "new" A2090A to get into production? Hrumphf. I just bought one less than 2 weeks ago with my new A2000 (the owner is now in,oh, 42nd heaven). The dealer had picked it up from C= the day before. Perhaps this is just another example of C= having better stock and faster availability in Canada than south of the border. YOU are the lucky one. YOU get a 2090A. I'm stuck with a 2 week old card that's obsolete. :-( I can't help feeling pissed off. My dealer's good, but even HE didn't know. I just hope the upgrade is free. It's only fair, I mean 2 WEEKS! -- Terry D. West University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. {backbone}!watmath!lion!tdwest
harald@ccicpg.UUCP ( Harald Milne) (12/04/87)
In article <5474@oberon.USC.EDU>, papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes: > Now that Dan Schein has broken the news, it is no longer a "rumor". C= has > in production the A2090A HD controller. > -- Marco I just got my January issue of Amiga/World. In the section on the AmiExpo in New York, October 10-12, there was talk of the 2090 card not being able to function while the Amiga is in overscan. That disturbs me a bit. I don't have a 2090 to verify this, but a simple test would be to try to make animations with VideoScape 3d to the hard disk. Also mentioned was ASDG's super whiz bang HD controller that didn't have this problem. If anyone is interested in more I can post details. Im surprised that I saw this in Amiga/World first. BTW, this issue is really worth picking up. Lots of new products like the Hurricane (Yet Another Coprocessor), MAX - The Hard Disk System Hackers Package construction project that allows MFM or RLL encoded hard disks for $199.00 (including all software, even backup utilities). I guess no Amiga owners in New York went to the AmiExpo 8^). I'm not going to miss the one in LA in January. Looks like January is going to be a very interesting month for a lot of reasons. Just how does the 2090A fit into all of this? -- Work: Computer Consoles Inc. (CCI), Advanced Development Group (ADG) Irvine, CA (RISCy business! Home of the CCI POWER 6/32) UUCP: uunet!ccicpg!harald
andy@cbmvax.UUCP (12/05/87)
In article <6575@ccicpg.UUCP> harald@ccicpg.UUCP ( Harald Milne) writes: >In article <5474@oberon.USC.EDU>, papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes: >> Now that Dan Schein has broken the news, it is no longer a "rumor". C= has >> in production the A2090A HD controller. >> -- Marco > > I just got my January issue of Amiga/World. In the section on the >AmiExpo in New York, October 10-12, there was talk of the 2090 card not being >able to function while the Amiga is in overscan. That disturbs me a bit. >I don't have a 2090 to verify this, but a simple test would be to try to make >animations with VideoScape 3d to the hard disk. This is one of the things that the updated hddisk device I announced awhile ago (and will mail to people over usenet) fixes. If you don't have have a 2090 card, the software that comes with your 2090 is the new driver, so it will work fine in overscan. -- andy finkel {ihnp4|seismo|allegra}!cbmvax!andy Commodore-Amiga, Inc. "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo." Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share. I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.
kjws@eagle.ukc.ac.uk (K.J.W.Smithers) (12/06/87)
Expires: Sender: Followup-To: In article <2903@cbmvax.UUCP> you write: > >This is one of the things that the updated hddisk device I announced >awhile ago (and will mail to people over usenet) fixes. If you don't >have have a 2090 card, the software that comes with your 2090 is >the new driver, so it will work fine in overscan. >-- >andy finkel {ihnp4|seismo|allegra}!cbmvax!andy >Commodore-Amiga, Inc. > I have an A2090 card and a CSA68020/68881 board with no 32 bit ram. They will Not work together. (but both work seperately) I think the driver (hddisk) is dated 1986 , is this the latest driver? (If not could you please e-mail me the latest version) The problem is when I run binddrivers that task stops, (binddrivers never exits). It seems to fallover on a particular call to execbase. The last instruction (displayed by MetaScope) is mov a2,(a0) If i move the hddisk from expansion draw , to hddisk.device in the devs draw, i can mount the harddisk (dh0:) , but when i do a cd dh0: , the cd command displays 'Cant find dh0:' I am running morerows, 672*266 on a B2000 rev 4.0 board (pal) with 2Mbytes expansion ram , 2*3.5inch drives, and (hopefully) A2090 + 20 Mbyte hard disk, and a CSA 68020/68881 board. I have also done the wire-link modification to the main B2000 board, as required by CSA for the 68020 board on Rev4.0 and later boards. Slots are as follows :- I I E E E M H 6 B B M M M E A 8 M M P P P M R 0 T T T O D 2 Y Y Y R D 0 Y I C S P K U Thanks in advance for any help Kit Smithers ____________________________________________________________________________ Kit Smithers kjws@ukc.ac.uk kjws@ukc.UUCP !mcvax!ukc!kjws The man who can not stay fast and hard at the same time ! Live for ever, or die in the attempt. ______________________________________________________________________________
daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) (12/18/87)
in article <4038@eagle.ukc.ac.uk>, kjws@eagle.ukc.ac.uk (K.J.W.Smithers) says: > I have an A2090 card and a CSA68020/68881 board with no 32 bit ram. > > They will Not work together. (but both work seperately) ... > > The problem is when I run binddrivers that task stops, (binddrivers > never exits). It seems to fallover on a particular call to execbase. > The last instruction (displayed by MetaScope) is mov a2,(a0) Is it possible that it's dying near a DMA; this may be hard to catch on the monitor. During Binddrivers, the A2090's driver code is loaded in from the Expansion directory. The initialization routines in this driver code set up the A2090 for a DMA. What you see running when the DMA actually happens is probably not related to this driver code, since the driver code will probably set the controller up for a DMA and then wait for an interrupt indicating the transfer has taken place. It sounds like something may be going wrong in the DMA arbitration between the A2090 and the CSA card. The A2090 is know to work with other 68020 cards, but I haven't seen it run with the CSA card specifically. > I am running morerows, 672*266 on a B2000 rev 4.0 board (pal) with > 2Mbytes expansion ram , 2*3.5inch drives, and (hopefully) A2090 + > 20 Mbyte hard disk, and a CSA 68020/68881 board. Especially with morerows running, you'll get much better performance out of the A2090 if you "RUN SlowMemLast" before "Binddrivers". I doubt that has any bearing on the problem you've got, but it's certainly a good thing to do anyway. > Kit Smithers kjws@ukc.ac.uk -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga Usenet: {ihnp4|uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh "The B2000 Guy" PLINK : D-DAVE H BIX : hazy "I can't relax, 'cause I'm a Boinger!"