donw@zehntel.UUCP (Don White) (12/03/87)
A friend just bought a copy of Garrison (sp?) for me from somewhere
in silicon valley. It is almost exactly the same game as Gauntlet which
is an arcade game.
The sound and music are excellent. (stereo, possibly digitized) The
play action is smooth and FAST. There is alot of action, monsters are
everywhere. They throw things, chase you, appear and dissappear, and just
generally make havoc. The programmers at Rainbow Gmbh DID GOOD! Thanks!
Rainbow Gmbh(sp?) is a German company which does not seem to be
distributing widely in the States. I heard a rumor that a company here
in the States is producing a game called Gauntlet and is attempting to
ban the sale of Garrison. According to the rumor the Amiga game called
Gauntlet is authorized by the makers of the arcade version.
Does anyone know if there is any truth to these rumors? If Gauntlet
was more like the original Gauntlet Arcade version, I would buy it TOO!
(And enjoy both!)
-- Pray for Sanity, but don't get crazy about it. Don White, now. --carlos@io.UUCP (Carlos Smith) (12/09/87)
In article <550@zehntel.UUCP> donw@zehntel.UUCP (Don White) writes: >> A friend just bought a copy of Garrison (sp?) for me from somewhere >in silicon valley. It is almost exactly the same game as Gauntlet which >is an arcade game. > The sound and music are excellent. (stereo, possibly digitized) The >play action is smooth and FAST. There is alot of action, monsters are >everywhere. They throw things, chase you, appear and dissappear, and just >generally make havoc. The programmers at Rainbow Gmbh DID GOOD! Thanks! ... >-- Pray for Sanity, but don't get crazy about it. Don White, now. -- And it WORKS!??! A few months ago myself and 2 friends all bought copies of Garrison, but all ended up having to return them. One copy never booted up (on an A500), while the other two would always hang while going to a new level. None of us were ever able to finish a game without it hanging. I liked the game, and hated having to return it. So, now I am wondering if this is a new release, or what? Ours were definitely European versions, written for PAL displays because everything went off the edges of the screen (though it didn't effect gameplay much). Is this still true? If it has been fixed I would pick it up again (or maybe we got a whole bad batch). The game was superbly done while it worked, the graphics and sound were truly of arcade quality. At any rate it sure throws down the gauntlet [sick] for Mindscape, who are doing the Amiga version of Gauntlet. They will have to work very hard to match the graphics of Garrison, which may be why they are upset. -- Carlos Smith uucp:...!harvard!umb!ileaf!carlos Bix: carlosmith
spierce@pnet01.cts.com (Stuart Pierce) (12/09/87)
Mindscape is indeed working on an Amiga version of Gauntlet (they have several other versions already), but it will not be ready until the 'first of next year'. I think Garrison is excellent, but the background does not scroll fast enough to keep up with the Wizard, Valkyrie, or Elf. I.e., if you run to the left, you are soon at the very left edge of the screen, and your pace is slowed down to match the pace of the scrolling background. Makes it difficult to see what is coming next. I still recommend the game. Stuart Pierce
jesup@pawl20.pawl.rpi.edu (Randell E. Jesup) (12/09/87)
In article <502@io.UUCP> carlos@zapp.UUCP (Carlos Smith) writes: ... >And it WORKS!??! A few months ago myself and 2 friends all bought copies of >Garrison, but all ended up having to return them. One copy never booted up >(on an A500), while the other two would always hang while going to a new >level. None of us were ever able to finish a game without it hanging. ... >I liked the game, and hated having to return it. ... > Carlos Smith Yes, it has bugs. However, we only experience a crash once every 5 or 6 games, and they never require a reload, just a quit current game. The graphics and sound are REALLY good. Documentation, you ask? What documentation (actually, the three page sheet is enough, usually. Play around). I would love it if the bugs were fixed, but I'm not holding my breath. Though I suppose I'd be mad if it crashed on the 100th level when I had 100,000 health (fat chance, top score here is 1,042,000 on level 42(?)). Tips: Med-packs bring you up to 5,000 health if you're below. Gray potions and mishapen (sp) food are bad, shoot them and everything slows down. And it's LOTS easier on some levels with two players. // Randell Jesup Lunge Software Development // Dedicated Amiga Programmer 13 Frear Ave, Troy, NY 12180 \\// lunge!jesup@beowulf.UUCP (518) 272-2942 \/ (uunet!steinmetz!beowulf!lunge!jesup)
donw@zehntel.UUCP (Don White) (12/10/87)
In article <502@io.UUCP>, carlos@io.UUCP (Carlos Smith) writes: > > The sound and music are excellent. (stereo, possibly digitized) The ... > ... > >-- Pray for Sanity, but don't get crazy about it. Don White, now. -- > > And it WORKS!??! A few months ago myself and 2 friends all bought copies of > Garrison, but all ended up having to return them. One copy never booted up > (on an A500), while the other two would always hang while going to a new > level. None of us were ever able to finish a game without it hanging. > > I liked the game, and hated having to return it. So, now I am wondering if > this is a new release, or what? Ours were definitely European versions, > written for PAL displays because everything went off the edges of the screen ... > Carlos Smith Yes, it works. It works on my A1000. I took it to a local computer store last night and tried it on an A500. It never booted up. It is still the PAL european display. But it does work for me. It is a little buggy, sometimes some of the graphics change colors or patterns, but I assumed this was due to the extra screen data that has to dissappear. You can tell that Garrisson is trying to write pixels ... where no pixels have gone before. (above and below the normal screen area. At first I thought it was vertical overscan, then I read the English/German translations on the box (fun), and knew in a flash that it was PAL) The bugginess does not occur often, so I can live with it.
donw@zehntel.UUCP (Don White) (12/10/87)
In article <502@io.UUCP>, carlos@io.UUCP (Carlos Smith) writes: > > The sound and music are excellent. (stereo, possibly digitized) The ... > ... > >-- Pray for Sanity, but don't get crazy about it. Don White, now. -- > > And it WORKS!??! A few months ago myself and 2 friends all bought copies of > Garrison, but all ended up having to return them. One copy never booted up > (on an A500), while the other two would always hang while going to a new > leveex". None of us were ever able to finish a game without it hanging. > > I liked the game, and hated having to return it. So, now I am wondering if > this is a new release, or what? Ours were definitely European versions, > written for PAL displays because everything went off the edges of the screen ... > Carlos Smith Yes, it works. It works on my A1000. I took it to a local computer store last night and tried it on an A500. It never booted up. It is still the PAL european display. But it does work for me. It is a little buggy, sometimes some of the graphics change colors or patterns, but I assumed this was due to the extra screen data that has to dissappear. You can tell that Garrisson is trying to write pixels ... where no pixels have gone before. (above and below the normal screen area. At first I thought it was vertical overscan, then I read the English/German translations on the box (fun), and knew in a flash that it was PAL) The bugginess does not occur often, so I can live with it
peter@sugar.UUCP (Peter da Silva) (12/15/87)
In article <502@io.UUCP>, carlos@io.UUCP (Carlos Smith) writes: > At any rate it sure throws down the gauntlet [sick] for > Mindscape, who are doing the Amiga version of Gauntlet. They will have to > work very hard to match the graphics of Garrison, which may be why they are > upset. Really? I'm a long time Gauntlet fan. Garrison seemed severely lacking in graphics, sound, and playability when compared to the arcade version. -- -- Peter da Silva `-_-' ...!hoptoad!academ!uhnix1!sugar!peter -- Disclaimer: These U aren't mere opinions... these are *values*.
cjp@antique.UUCP (Charles Poirier) (12/17/87)
In article <1259@sugar.UUCP> peter@sugar.UUCP (Peter da Silva) writes: >In article <502@io.UUCP>, carlos@io.UUCP (Carlos Smith) writes: >> Mindscape, who are doing the Amiga version of Gauntlet. They will have to >> work very hard to match the graphics of Garrison, which may be why they are >> upset. > >Really? I'm a long time Gauntlet fan. Garrison seemed severely lacking in >graphics, sound, and playability when compared to the arcade version. I may not be the best arcade-Gauntlet expert, but for my money, the sound, graphics, and playability are very, very comparable. Ok, so it doesn't talk to you about "Wizard needs food, Badly!" in German; maybe there are other minor differences in feel. But the big win, I think, is that Garrison has (a) tons of different screens (more than 90, probably 128; I've been recording their names), and (b) 95% of them are original, not just copied from the arcade game, so that one doesn't instantly get bored from sheer familiarity. My best game got me to level 36 playing solo. -- Charles Poirier (decvax,ihnp4,attmail)!vax135!cjp "Docking complete... Docking complete... Docking complete..."
carlos@io.UUCP (Carlos Smith) (12/19/87)
In article <1259@sugar.UUCP> peter@sugar.UUCP (Peter da Silva) writes: >In article <502@io.UUCP>, carlos@io.UUCP (Carlos Smith) writes: >> At any rate it sure throws down the gauntlet [sick] for >> Mindscape, who are doing the Amiga version of Gauntlet. They will have to >> work very hard to match the graphics of Garrison, which may be why they are >> upset. > >Really? I'm a long time Gauntlet fan. Garrison seemed severely lacking in >graphics, sound, and playability when compared to the arcade version. >-- >-- Peter da Silva `-_-' ...!hoptoad!academ!uhnix1!sugar!peter Well, I guess that these are what you would call subjective opinions. My friends and I were impressed by Garrison, but what the hey. I think you may change your mind if you play with it for a while... But it doesn't matter, because I recently saw Gauntlet on the Atari ST and it looked REALLY sharp. So if they do their job right it should look better still on the Amiga, given 32 colors and faster graphics, not to mention the sound. Something to really look forward to for Gauntlet fans, and forget about this buggy stuff like Garrison. I have little respect for people who can do nice graphics but can't keep the thing from crashing every five minutes... Nice to demo maybe, but don't try to sell it to people. Don't hold your breath though. It appears that almost all of the hot new games that were due out for Christmas are going to be late. Waaaahhhhh!!!! -- Carlos Smith uucp:...!harvard!umb!ileaf!carlos Bix: carlosmith
spierce@pnet01.cts.com (Stuart Pierce) (12/21/87)
I have never seen Garrison crash. Maybe I haven't put enough time into it?? Stuart Pierce
iqbal@pnet01.cts.com (Iqbal Hans) (12/21/87)
> I have never seen Garrison crash.
I just got Garrison and it doesn't even start before it crashes! When it
asks me to enter the Scenery disk, I do and then I push the space bar. The
drive runs for a while, then my screen turns green or sometimes purplish.
Sometimes the "Please insert scenery disk" requestor comes back up. When I
push the space bar again, the disk runs for a little while, the screen turns
green (or purple) and the power light starts flashing. The machine also makes
some distorted sounds through the speaker.
Do these colors mean anything? Is there something wrong with my system?
Everything else seems to run fine. It's just this game that gives me the
problems.
My system consists of:
A1000
2meg Alegra
Genlock 1300
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In article <2174@crash.cts.com> iqbal@pnet01.cts.com (Iqbal Hans) writes: > I just got Garrison and it doesn't even start before it crashes! When it >asks me to enter the Scenery disk, I do and then I push the space bar. The >drive runs for a while, then my screen turns green or sometimes purplish. A friend has the same problem. My Garrison disk, which always boots and only occasionally crashes on my own A1000, booted only once out of more than 30 attempts. Green screen and all. He had no expansions except a second drive. I should add that I've been told that disconnecting the second drive before booting Garrison helps a lot on a 512K-only Amiga. (The second drive device uses up too much memory.) Good luck, -- Charles Poirier (decvax,ihnp4,attmail)!vax135!cjp "Docking complete... Docking complete... Docking complete..."
lishka@uwslh.UUCP (Christopher Lishka) (12/23/87)
If I may interject a comment here:
Boy! It seems to me that Garrison has too many problems. How
can writers release programs that are that buggy? I will never buy
this game, just because of all of the bug reports people have
mentioned. I'll wait for Gauntlet instead.
Also, I've seen Garrison running and the graphics just don't
seem that hot to me. It looks as if the characters float over the
ground, not walk on it. Again, I'll wait for Gauntler instead.
The above is just personal opionions.
-Chris
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"What, me, serious? Get real!" \{seismo, harvard,topaz,...}!uwvax!uwslh!lishkakirkb@pnet01.cts.com (Kirk Baker) (12/26/87)
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I have Garrison v1.02. I just got it a week ago. I have been playing it on a
B2000 w/3meg of ram. It has not yet crashed. I have really abused this game.
(i.e. running ROM-Wack in the background.) No problems at all. What version
does everyone else have? Mine does not seem to be a PAL version. The screen
comes up perfectly centered.
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Kirk Baker {ihnp4, hplabs!hp-sdd, sdcsvax}!crash!pnet01!kirkb
(Don't use pnet01!kirkb; try crash!pnet01!kirkb -- Thanks!)
I need more CHIMP ram. Whaddya mean CHIMP ram? CHIMP ram is the memory
that all of the Amiga's custom thingies get to monkey around with!