[comp.sys.amiga] 2000 *COLD* boot

cunniff@hpfclq.HP.COM (Ross Cunniff) (11/18/87)

Well, I finally traded in my 1000 for a 2000 (buying the 1000 back), and
am pretty happy with the 2000.  However, there is one annoying problem
with the 2000:  if I power-on the 2000 when the motherboard temperature
is below about 70 degrees F (21 degrees C, for those of you living in the
20th century), the screen remains dark (no diagnostic colors, NOTHING)
until I hit the ctrl-amiga-amiga.  It then proceeds to boot just fine.
If I apply a blow drier on low heat to the motherboard (raising the
temperature to, oh, 80 degrees or so) the power-on sequence works properly.

Now, since it is winter in Colorado, the temperature in my house is
generally below 70 degrees F, and so I ALWAYS have to ctrl-amiga-amiga
to boot.  This is perplexing.  I guess I will take it back to the
dealer :-(, but I wanted to solicit net.opinions first.  Is this a known
problem with the 2000, or do I have a cold solder joint or something
somewhere?

P.S. Thanks to everybody who responded to my question about disemboweling
the 1010 disk drive and putting it in my 2000 - since I bought my 1000
back, the point is moot.

				Ross Cunniff
				Hewlett-Packard System Software Operation
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stever@videovax.Tek.COM (Steven E. Rice, P.E.) (11/24/87)

In article <4230008@hpfclq.HP.COM>, Ross Cunniff (cunniff@hpfclq.HP.COM)
writes:

>           . . . if I power-on the 2000 when the motherboard temperature
> is below about 70 degrees F (21 degrees C, for those of you living in the
> 20th century), the screen remains dark (no diagnostic colors, NOTHING)
> until I hit the ctrl-amiga-amiga.  It then proceeds to boot just fine.
> If I apply a blow drier on low heat to the motherboard (raising the
> temperature to, oh, 80 degrees or so) the power-on sequence works properly.

>                                                   . . .  Is this a known
> problem with the 2000, or do I have a cold solder joint or something
> somewhere?

A cold solder joint is a reasonable surmise.  Also look for ICs which have
one pin bent over (just touching the socket).  This problem will probably
yield to a close visual inspection.

					Steve Rice

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grr@cbmvax.UUCP (George Robbins) (12/28/87)

In article <4230008@hpfclq.HP.COM> cunniff@hpfclq.HP.COM (Ross Cunniff) writes:
> Well, I finally traded in my 1000 for a 2000 (buying the 1000 back), and
> am pretty happy with the 2000.  However, there is one annoying problem
> with the 2000:  if I power-on the 2000 when the motherboard temperature
> is below about 70 degrees F (21 degrees C, for those of you living in the
> 20th century), the screen remains dark (no diagnostic colors, NOTHING)
> until I hit the ctrl-amiga-amiga.  It then proceeds to boot just fine.
> If I apply a blow drier on low heat to the motherboard (raising the
> temperature to, oh, 80 degrees or so) the power-on sequence works properly.

	Well, I'd suspect something in the power-up reset circuitry is
broken, probably either an out-of-spec or incorrect value part in the area
of U805, the LM339/2901 that handles the reset chores.  Might as well get
it fixed, since there's a 50/50 chance it will get worse instead of
better.

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