CRONEJP@UREGINA1.BITNET (Jonathan Crone) (01/01/88)
I really should learn to take a nap to decompress after work and before reading Comp.sys.amiga and blasting messages everywhere.... Eric Lavitsky, Perry Kivolwitz (sp??) at ASDG George Robbins, Rick Sterling at CBM-AMIGA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!! there my conscience is assuaged and i can honestly let netland know that i'm not a hot headed maniac. I called Micron again.... after chatting for a while again with them, i've ordered one of the asdg designed 2 meg ram boards, along with the double slot cage and the power supply for it. (WHAT I SHOULD HAVE DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!) I never noticed that the A2052 needs 3 amps.... I DID remember that amy can put out 1 amp..... silly me and my ammeter. here are some of my comments wrt to a message from eric.... sorry for non standard format but i'm reading and talking to comp.sys.amiga on a non unix box, so i don't get the neat mailer software... *> me acting dumb and flaming at ppl. > eric. *>Well after reading the latest mail from Comp.sys.amiga and seeing *>exactly three messages consisting totally of ASDG and Commodore beating *>each others heads in, I'd like to thank you both for ruining my impressions *>of the people involved. >I hardly think that the messages between George and myself can be construed >as our beating each others heads in. George and I know each other and are >actually quite friendly. I have no animosity towards Commodore and I'm sure >the same can be said of Commodore towards ASDG - George was simply keeping >me in line (hey, I'm human - I get carried away and hype our products a >little too much every now and then :-) - 'nuff said. Its ok... i got a little carried away.... and based on what i've seen, ASDg has reason to be proud.. i simply can't afford it.... sigh.. *>There, the truth is out..... I bought the A2052 memory card at cost. *>I figured that would be the most cost effective way for me to get *>myself 2 megs of future compatible memory. *>I called ASDG, had a chat with a couple of people there, and they recommended *>micron as a manufacturer of card cages. AT NO time was any mention *>made of this SUBSET or SUPERSET Zorro II crap thats been flying about *>WRT to my Christmas day message asking why my A2052 wouldn't work in the micro *>cage. >We obviously assumed that you would be purchasing a board from Micron >as well. Sounds like a simple misunderstanding here - I don't think we >specifically told you that you would be able to use *other* peoples products >in the Micron chassis. You can still buy a Micron board at cost if you >work for a dealer. Sorry about that Eric, i should have stated my plans quite clearly. I had been considering the ASDG 8M but 1 meg rams are QUITE expensive up here. Also, our distributors don't seem to have Micron equipment listed. *>I called micron, asked them if the cage was FULLY Zorro II compatible, *>and they said YES. >If this is really the case, we will be in contact with Micron to correct >the situation. Their boards are fully Zorro compliant, but the single slot >adapter is not. They should not be telling their customers otherwise. Tis possible that the marking guy didn't know what i was babblying about. below is me being unreasonable with the keyboard. *>I then ordered one, assuming that by FULLY compatible, it would work *>with something from the company that ORIGINATED the DA*N spec in the first *>place. *>I receive the cage, install it, and the memory and then procede to spend an *>entire long lonely Christmas weekend tearing my HAIR out trying to figure *>out why the cage won't work. *>(INCLUDING tracing every single trace on the damn card cage motherboard) *> *>I now read commodore and asdg bashing each other and NOT helping me in *>anyway like suggesting,, fix this or that.... instead i'm told to *>buy this or that, and take this or that back. >Sorry Jonathan - I'm afraid we offered whatever suggestions were possible, >would you rather we hadn't? There just wasn't a "fix" that we could offer >other than to recommend returns/changes. Actually your suggestions were quite reasonable for the situation and i'd like to thank you for explaining what exactly was meant wrt to the various Zorro II situations. *>I'm PISSED OFF... *> *>I bought the A2052 because even though I'd love to, I can't afford ASDG's *>products.... everyone says they are the best, but I CAN'T afford $500 US *>for a BARE BOARD. let alone whatever the price is for 16 1 megbit drams. *> *>Well ok thanks for nothing much everyone. >That's what we get for trying to help... (sigh) > > >Eric Lavitsky > > ..."wherever!"rutgers!topaz!eric - from Buckaroo Banzai >SNAIL: 34 Maplehurst Ln, Piscataway, NJ 08854 I was being a bad boy with the Pissed off comment.... I should not have expected a ruddy miracle from the newsgroup, everyone is only human. and i was being an idiot.... apologies to all involved.... Jonathan (the repentent one) Crone CRONEJP@UREGINA1.BITNET