bobr (07/08/82)
A. You have to have a half-decent constitution in order to qualify as a democratic state, i.e. there will be issues on which a majority vote will never be solicited. (Example: in West Germany, the death penalty is constitutionally outlawed *under any circumstance, even in wartimes*.) In the vast majority of cases, the process of designing a constitution was "undemocratic"; constitutions were made up by the respective elites of the respective societies. B. Communist countries have constitutions, too. So in order to qualify as a democracy, you gotta give the appearance that constitutional rights can be enfrorced. One watchdog to do this is an independent and free press. Now, Western European media seem to be more open-minded and less uniform than their American counterparts, hence there is "more" democracy "media-wise" in Western Europe than in North America. C. If lobbying can influence parliamentary votes significantly against the common good, then the society under consideration is in worse shape than if there did not exist so many detrimental effects of lobbying in the particular society we consider. D. The more the individual citizens are allowed to participate freely in the democratic process, the better obviously the quality of the respective democracy. E. All of which serves to say: there are apparently only various degrees of democracy; the less potential a society has to be abused against its own citizens, the more democracy (probably). Nonetheless:"Freedom is always the freedom of the dissenter, too" (Rosa Luxemburg, utopian socialist) Christoph ...!decvax!utzoo!utcsrgv!bobr