kim@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (Kim DeVaughn) (03/22/88)
[ "Nicaragua" is Spanish for "Vietnam." --Bob Page ]
It just dawned on me [well, it *is* 5:00 AM] ... someone recently said (when
refering to the possibility that CBM might incorporate the ARP stuff in a
future rev of AmigaDOS [or was it ARexx ?]), that they (CBM) were "scared to
death" or assembly language.
While I doubt that the good people at CBM are "scared to death" of asssembly,
it is interesting to note that assembly is Bryce's speciality!
Hmmmmmmmm ....?
Anyway, whatever he'll be up to ... Congratulations to Bryce, and to CBM!
/kim
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CIS: 76535,25shimoda@rmi.UUCP (Markus Schmidt) (03/24/88)
In article <25233@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> kim@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (Kim DeVaughn) writes: : : [ "Nicaragua" is Spanish for "Vietnam." --Bob Page ] : : It just dawned on me [well, it *is* 5:00 AM] ... someone recently said (when : refering to the possibility that CBM might incorporate the ARP stuff in a : future rev of AmigaDOS [or was it ARexx ?]), that they (CBM) were "scared to : death" or assembly language. : : While I doubt that the good people at CBM are "scared to death" of asssembly, : it is interesting to note that assembly is Bryce's speciality! : : Hmmmmmmmm ....? : : : Anyway, whatever he'll be up to ... Congratulations to Bryce, and to CBM! : : /kim : : : : -- : UUCP: kim@amdahl.amdahl.com : or: {sun,decwrl,hplabs,pyramid,ihnp4,uunet,oliveb,cbosgd,ames}!amdahl!kim : DDD: 408-746-8462 : USPS: Amdahl Corp. M/S 249, 1250 E. Arques Av, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 : CIS: 76535,25 Hi! I hate assembler too & if you really do C right you don't need assembler too often. Dunno if someone has tried Leo Schwab's NEETO.ASM. It was pure assembly and had 340 Bytes. I tried to do the same in C and did it with 348 Bytes. Or I have written a filebrowser that \is *entirely* "C" and scrolls nearly as fast as BLITZ. If you say Assemby is 100% (code and speed) good "C" can be 120% (20% slower and bigger) and 50% delvelopmenttime. |._,| Cu - - Markus ==O== (shimoda@rmi.UUCP) `-' Never trust a smiling cat!
eric@cbmvax.UUCP (Eric Cotton) (03/25/88)
In article <25233@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> kim@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (Kim DeVaughn) writes: >It just dawned on me [well, it *is* 5:00 AM] ... someone recently said (when >refering to the possibility that CBM might incorporate the ARP stuff in a >future rev of AmigaDOS [or was it ARexx ?]), that they (CBM) were "scared to >death" or assembly language. > >While I doubt that the good people at CBM are "scared to death" of asssembly, >it is interesting to note that assembly is Bryce's speciality! Certainly no one here at Commodore is "scared to death" of asssembly. However, C is often chosen as the language of choice in that it is more maintainable. Many low-level functions, where code size and/or speed are critical considerations, are written in Assembler. But please, let's not start a C v. Assembler religious war. -- Eric Cotton Commodore-Amiga *======================================================================* *===== UUCP: {rutgers|ihnp4|allegra}!cbmvax!eric =====* *===== FONE: (215) 431-9100 =====* *===== MAIL: 1200 Wilson Drive / West Chester, PA 19380 =====* *===== PAUL: "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." =====* *======================================================================*
jojo@astroatc.UUCP (Jon Wesener) (03/25/88)
In article <933@rmi.UUCP> shimoda@rmi.UUCP (Markus Schmidt) writes: >I hate assembler too & if you really do C right you don't need >assembler too often. >Dunno if someone has tried Leo Schwab's NEETO.ASM. It was pure >assembly and had 340 Bytes. I tried to do the same in C and did >it with 348 Bytes. >Or I have written a filebrowser that \is >*entirely* "C" and scrolls nearly as fast as BLITZ. If you say >Assemby is 100% (code and speed) good "C" can be 120% (20% >slower and bigger) and 50% delvelopmenttime. I used to write a lot of assembly, and have since decided to stay entirely away from it if possible. Every try to port things written in assembler to a different machine with a different cpu? 2ndly, I write device drivers for high performance disk drives, printers, ethernets, etc and nothing is done in assembler, all C and all symbolically debuggable with dbx. We may have a few routines optimized for speed written in assembler, like bcopy() but that's about it. These drivers are a pain to debug, but I wouldn't even attempt to write them in assembler just because we couldn't afford the debug time, or the non-portability. --j -- jon wesener ... {seismo | harvard | ihnp4} ! {uwvax | cs.wisc.edu} ! astroatc!jojo "I say, why are those buildings swaying like trees?"