sqrkl@csvax.liv.ac.uk (03/16/88)
In article <3898@cup.portal.com>, prplworm@cup.portal.com writes: > goint commercial "Real Soon Now": Amic 1.0. I have been using Amic since > version 0.56 (I'm currently using 0.59e, waiting for a 0.97 to test), and it > is simply the BEST terminal program for ANY machine! According to the This is a bit of a grandiose claim !!!! I'm working on a VT100 terminal emulator for the new Acorn Archimedes machine that will (I hope) knock the socks off ALL OTHER terminal emulators : Does/Will Amic 1.0 have the following : 1) An 8 by 10 pixel 256 character set IDENTICAL to a VT100's. 2) True smooth scrolling in both directions (that is new characters come on one pixel at a time) - none of this 'smooth scroll 10 pixels then print the bottom line' rubbish. 3) The assorted character test and the E-test (the latter is done in 0.04 of a second on the Archimedes). 4) Retention of screen info when display is switched between 80 and 132 column modes (and before you moan - it CAN be done on a VT100 !!!!). 5) Double width cursor on double-width lines (surprising how many emulators don't do this...). 6) Choice of amber, green or mono colour scheme with TRUE bold characters (i.e. brighter than normal). I bet you any money that Amic 1.0 fails on one or more of the above. I know this seems like nit-picking, but if you're emulating a VT100, why not make it look and behave as close to the original as you possibly can ? Final note : I use a PT100 (Plessey VT100-compatible) here and it has the following bug that might well be present on official DEC VT100's : Go into LOCAL mode on the terminal. Create some lines of text (best way is to do the E-test, ESC # 8). Change the cursor to underscore (ESC [ 2 v). Change one of the text lines to double-height, double width, top-half (ESC # 3). Bingo ! The cursor disappears !!!! This is because double-height lines cause the cursor to change to 'double-height', which, of course, is unnoticeable if the cursor is a block (because double-height-block := single-height-block as far as the shape of the cursor is concerned). If, however, the cursor is an underline, the top half of a double-height underline cursor is 5 blank lines (expanded to 10 lines) !!!! Personally, I don't think I should 'emulate' this bug : I'll make the cursor 'double-height' but I'll use the bottom 5 lines of the cursor definition rather than the top 5 lines on double-height lines (either top or bottom-half). Richard K. Lloyd, *************************************************** Computer Science Dept., * JANET : SQRKL@UK.AC.LIV.CSVAX * Liverpool University, * UUCP : {backbone}!mcvax!ukc!mupsy!liv-cs!SQRKL * Merseyside, England, * ARPA : SQRKL%csvax.liv.ac.uk@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk * Great (?) Britain. *************************************************** "I have VERY strong opinions which are nothing whatsoever to do with the University of Liverpool, so blame ME if I bitch about useless IBM PC clones, even more redundant IBM mainframes and the terrible Atari ST..."
zofka@cernvax.UUCP (zofka) (03/18/88)
In article <539@csvax.liv.ac.uk> sqrkl@csvax.liv.ac.uk writes: >In article <3898@cup.portal.com>, prplworm@cup.portal.com writes: >> goint commercial "Real Soon Now": Amic 1.0. I have been using Amic since >> version 0.56 (I'm currently using 0.59e, waiting for a 0.97 to test), and it >> is simply the BEST terminal program for ANY machine! According to the > >This is a bit of a grandiose claim !!!! >I'm working on a VT100 terminal emulator for the new Acorn Archimedes machine >that will (I hope) knock the socks off ALL OTHER terminal emulators : Wonderful... I don't want to create any flame about other machines but last year, I have seen a Public Domain software on the Atari for a VT100 Vt52 VT220 tektro4010 ... emulator... It was wonderful. The emulation was so good (I have a program to test vtxxx) that the bugs was also emulated (bugs of vt100 of course) Is amic also so close than reality ??? Milan zofka@cernvax.uucp
prplworm@cup.portal.com (03/27/88)
Sorry, I misused a term... When I said I thought Amic was the best terminal program I actually meant to say it was the best COMMUNICATIONS program. I can't say about the terminal emulation yet, as I do not have version 1.0. In fact the only emulation in version 0.59e is ANSI, and since it uses the Amiga's console.device, it is still rather pathetic. What I was talking about was the ease of use and speed of the program. Whether or not the VT-52/VT-100/ VT-102 meets up with the programmer's claims remains to be seen. I have a feeling they will meet those claims, though. Chris L. Hatch Usenet: prplworm@cup.portal.com Portal: prplworm GEnie: C.HATCH
peter@nuchat.UUCP (Peter da Silva) (03/28/88)
(1) Get thyself a VAX running VMS. (2) Get thyself a PDP-11 running RSX-11. (3) Run EDT on the VAX. (4) Run EDT on the PDP-11. (5) Run RMD on the PDP-11. (6) Run all the system monitor programs on the VAX. (7) Run EVE on the VAX. If you don't find any glitches, congratulations. DEC uses all sorts of undocumented side-effects caused by doing things like leaving off parameters in escape sequences. -- -- a clone of Peter (have you hugged your wolf today) da Silva `-_-' -- normally ...!hoptoad!academ!uhnix1!sugar!peter U -- Disclaimer: These aren't mere opinions... these are *values*.