[comp.sys.amiga] Amiga Magic Sac

kim@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (Kim DeVaughn) (04/26/88)

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Dave Lakritz reports (from the 04/21/88 BADGE meeting) on our internal
Amiga conference:
 
> Subject:  Amiga Magic Sac
>
> The person developing the Magic Sac was at last night's Badge meeting.
> He announced that due to problems with obtaining Apple ROMs as well as to
> avoid any future litigation from Apple, development of the Amiga version
> of the Magic Sac will be discontinued.
>
> Apparently they have a prototype running which can boot up a Mac
> screen on the Amiga but it's not to the point of being able to run
> anything yet.  He said he would check into releasing some of the design
> details into the public domain.
>
> They must have been getting a little edgy with Apple filing suit against
> Microsoft and HP.  I'm not sure how they were able to get the ROMs for
> the Atari version but maybe they didn't have Apple's full consent.
>
> The developer said that they had enough ROMs to supply the Atari version
> but hinted that they would let that product die after running out.
>
> Dave


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T31@PSUVMA.BITNET (04/30/88)

   I do not know who gave you your info about the Amiga Magic Sac but

   The copany which makes the Atari Magic Sac does not sell the Apple ROM

   for the product.  I can't see how they could run out.  There is a good

   supply of chips for the Atari version (and so for a Amiga version)

   any Mac which still has the 64k roms is a source of the chips (they

   install the 128k version and you get the useless 64k ones)


                                              JTT

cmcmanis%pepper@Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) (05/03/88)

In article <40978T31@PSUVMA> T31@PSUVMA.BITNET writes:
>   I do not know who gave you your info about the Amiga Magic Sac but
>   The copany which makes the Atari Magic Sac does not sell the Apple ROM
>   for the product.  I can't see how they could run out. 

The information on the Magic Sac* came from Data Pacific, the same company
that sells it for the Atari. Basically, the supply of legal 64K ROMs is
finite, and it is not legally feasible to produce something that used 
either a copy of those ROMs or some of the new ones. Data Pacific believes
that there are enough ROMs in the 'pipeline' to satisfy the Atari demand
but couldn't satisfy new demand created by the Amiga version, they 
acknowledge that this will be a dead product in while because there will
be no source of ROMs. You should know that Apple *will not* produce any
more 64K roms and thus in time (maybe sooner than you think) you won't 
be able to buy the Magic Sac for the Atari either. It is current speculation
that Data Pacific "got away" with this for exactly this reason. Apple knows
how many ROMs are out there and thus the maximum impact of the Magic Sac on
their sales. It is also interesting to note that the Magic Sac + Atari is
the only "clone" of the Mac that hasn't been actively sued by Apple. This
could change if D.P. pushed the issue. It will change even faster if Atari
keeps saying things like "its Mac compatible too!" in public. So if you
want the Magic Sac on the Atari buy it soon, you may not get another chance.


*The Magic Sac is an addon device for an Atari ST that uses the Mac 64K ROMS
 and some custom code to emulate an Apple Macintosh.


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NETOPRHM@NCSUVM.BITNET (Hal Meeks) (05/05/88)

Data Pacific makes another product called "Translator One", which
will read/write Mac diskettes. Although full emulation would be nice,
this would help me out a lot. I wonder if they have thought about
making it available for the Amiga?
--hal