padre@clark-emh.arpa (Brad R. Harper) (05/08/88)
A hearty disagreement has ensued. I find Diga! a superior comm pkg. Of course the fact that I own stock in said company has NO bearing on my fact based opinions. Seriously, I do prefer Online! except that the Kermit protocol doesnot work here. My opinions are based upon a history of mental dependency of confusion! . q [A[A[
prplworm@cup.portal.com (05/10/88)
If he wants the BEST communications program, he should wait for Amic to be released. To get an idea of what Amic is like, pick up the last PD version (Amic v0.58e) off of a BBS, look at it, and add in MORE speed, MORE protocols, MORE script commands, MORE...etc. Believe me, it's great! The commercial versio of Amic *will* have Zmodem and Kermit, btw (they weren't in any of the Of course, the fact that I'm beta-testing this beauty could make me biased, but I don't think so (I loved it when it was PD, too). Chris L. Hatch Usenet: prplworm@cup.portal.com Portal: prplworm GEnie: C.HATCH
daves@hpcilzb.HP.COM (Dave Scroggins) (05/14/88)
I think that the old "Starship term" or Starterm program is very good. Amiga World Mag. also recommended it very highly.(at least when I read the article on communications.) The best thing about it is it's CHEAP, see in as how it's ShareWare. I've used DIGA before but prefer to keep my StarTerm. It doesn't have auto-redial or dozens of different emulators. It always works though. Dave S.
daves@hpcilzb.HP.COM (Dave Scroggins) (05/14/88)
>/ hpcilzb:comp.sys.amiga / pollock@usfvax2.EDU (Wayne Pollock) / 6:06 pm May 3, 1988 / >My brother is about to purchase an Amiga 500. I promised him I would find >a good communications program for him. Does anyone have a favorite? >(Or any other software they would care to recommend?) > >If "communications wars" have just been waged here, I don't mean to start >them up again; could someone mail me the name of the winner? > >Thanks! > > >Wayne Pollock (The MAD Scientist) pollock@usfvax2.usf.edu > Wow how did this get here -- after the responses I read earlier. Our net stuff sure has been weird latly. Anyhow-- As I said before -- Check out "Starship Term or StarTerm" Amigaworld rated it very highly. I use it all the time. If does not have dozens fo emulatiors or auto redial like DIGA, but it works very well. It's kinda like the Volkswagen Bug of communication programs. (NO flames please -- this is ment as a compliment.) It has no frills but work well. It has Xmodem and kermit (I believe). It has softkeys, and a phone list. The BEST thing about it is the price -- it's shareware. It's also small -- so it doesn't take up too much disk space. I have StarTerm on a disk to do my banking with. I still have room for one year of bank statements. I usually get one or two statements per month. I also have room on this same disk for a CLI and some other utilities I use for banking. Check it out before you buy any of those expensive packages. Dave S.
sdl@linus.UUCP (Steven D. Litvintchouk) (05/15/88)
In article <5273@cup.portal.com> prplworm@cup.portal.com writes: > If he wants the BEST communications program, he should wait for Amic to be > released. To get an idea of what Amic is like, pick up the last PD version > (Amic v0.58e) off of a BBS, look at it, and add in MORE speed,MORE protocols, > MORE script commands, MORE...etc. Believe me, it's great! > Of course, the fact that I'm beta-testing this beauty could make me biased, How close to 100% VT100 emulation does it get? I often need to log in on various archaic systems that think they're talking to real, exact, VT100's.... Steven Litvintchouk MITRE Corporation Burlington Road Bedford, MA 01730 Fone: (617)271-7753 ARPA: sdl@mitre-bedford.arpa UUCP: ...{cbosgd,decvax,genrad,ll-xn,mit-eddie,philabs,utzoo}!linus!sdl "Those who will be able to conquer software will be able to conquer the world." -- Tadahiro Sekimoto, president, NEC Corp.
hrlaser@pnet02.cts.com (Harv Laser) (05/22/88)
daves@hpcilzb.HP.COM (Dave Scroggins) writes: >Anyhow-- As I said before -- Check out "Starship Term or StarTerm" > >Amigaworld rated it very highly. I use it all the time. >If does not have dozens fo emulatiors or auto redial like DIGA, but >it works very well. > >It's kinda like the Volkswagen Bug of communication programs. (NO flames >please -- this is ment as a compliment.) > >It has no frills but work well. It has Xmodem and kermit (I believe). > >It has softkeys, and a phone list. > >The BEST thing about it is the price -- it's shareware. > It's also been made obsolete :-). COMM is the new VW Bug of telecomm software (with a Porsche engine called WXmodem). COMM's even less expensive than any shareware term: it's free public domain. Oh, and hey, you say AmigaWorld recommended Starterm? Isn't that the same magazine whose Editor, Guy Wright said he doesn't like Telecommunications because it's "too complicated" ?? Harv Laser, Sysop, The People/Link AmigaZone. Plink: CBM*HARV UUCP: {ihnp4!scgvaxd!cadovax, rutgers!marque}!gryphon!pnet02!hrlaser INET: hrlaser@pnet02.cts.com
richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) (05/22/88)
In article <4136@gryphon.CTS.COM> hrlaser@pnet02.cts.com (Harv Laser) writes: > >Oh, and hey, you say AmigaWorld recommended Starterm? Isn't that the same >magazine whose Editor, Guy Wright said he doesn't like Telecommunications >because it's "too complicated" ?? > Yes, that was one of the funniest things I'd seen in a while. I never read the Zeitgeist (sp?) column that bashed telecommunications as being a complete waste, but I read the letters in the next issue who all agreed, and it struck me as a little one sided. Either they got no letters in support on telecomunications of they ignored them. Not to cool. It seems unlikely they wouldnt get a single letter in support of telecom, I mean gosh, who hasnt got the time to write a letter on paper, I mean reaind the NET doenst take up that much time, I....... Oh. I'll shut up now. -- Have a nice day or Klortho will rip your nuts off. richard@gryphon.CTS.COM rutgers!marque!gryphon!richard
doug-merritt@cup.portal.com (05/23/88)
Harv Laser said: >Oh, and hey, you say AmigaWorld recommended Starterm? Isn't that the same >magazine whose Editor, Guy Wright said he doesn't like Telecommunications >because it's "too complicated" ?? Yes, but that's nothing to belittle. To sneer at that editorial is to be complacent about what's currently available. I do telecommunications every day, both Usenet and BBS, LAN's, downloads, uploads, ftp, etc. And I use whatever services/programs are available to do what I want quite successfully. I've implemented transfer protocols, I'm an OS internals hacker, and *I* totally agree with that editorial. It *is* much harder than it should be to get things done. It's easy to be elitist, and take that attitude "well, *I* figured it out, so anyone who says it's too hard must be an idiot." But that misses a point...how much easier *could* it be? If you've ever worked in an environment that supported tightly coupled file systems, where the network was invisible, you might not be so complacent. Also I see no reason why user interfaces on BBS's must be so primitive that they scare off non-expert users. I know plenty of people who just don't want to bother, because they're so user-hostile. The *only* truly nice and modern user interface I've ever seen is Apple's, that has a really nice icon-driven system that lets you do all kinds of stuff (mail etc) over their network as easily as you do things on your local machine. I've got a mental block on the name of their network, but this is their internal national network that all of the Apple offices use to talk to each other. As implemented on Mac's, it's really nice. I claim there's every reason to want about three orders of magnitude improvement in the user interfaces used in both host and slave telecom programs. People who sell commercial BBS software should be embarrassed... as should all of the commercial service bureau's like Genie, etc. That stuff is stone age technology. I saw high school hackers write stuff of equivalent functionality in the mid-70's. A plea to the world at large: It's 1988...wake up! Doug -- Doug Merritt ucbvax!sun.com!cup.portal.com!doug-merritt or ucbvax!eris!doug (doug@eris.berkeley.edu) or ucbvax!unisoft!certes!doug