amiga-sources (alt.sources.amiga @ Sugar Land UNIX) (06/28/88)
Q: What is alt.sources.amiga? alt.sources.amiga is a moderated newsgroup containing source code of interest to Amiga programmers. Submissions may be virtually any type of program, in any language (for example, C, Modula-2, Forth, Draco, FORTRAN, BASIC, Rexx, assembler, Icon, Sculpt and so on). Q: What can I post to alt.sources.amiga? You can post source code to any non-trivial program that you or someone you know has written that you think could be of use to others in the Amiga community. The code must be freely redistributable, and we would prefer that you impose a minimum of restrictions on commercial reuse. We have no problem with requests for money or credit, but outright shareware will not be accepted. The code should do or demonstrate something useful, but again this is not a hard requirement: particularly amusing (and small) screen hacks and the like will be published. Q: Why alt.sources.amiga? There is already a comp.sources.amiga. The current moderators of comp.sources.amiga maintain an editorial policy that we do not feel best serves the bulk of the Amiga *programmers* on Usenet. As moderators, this is their right. As members of the alt subnetwork, it is our right to provide this alternative channel. Q: Why not alt.sources? Because alt.sources is not moderated and it's not specifically for Amiga sources. Q: Why is alt.sources.amiga moderated? We feel that by moderating the group we can maintain a high "signal-to-noise ratio" by posting submissions that meet the guidelines and by, to some degree, testing submitted code. Our goal is to keep the advantages of a moderated newsgroup while still providing quick turnaround of submissions. Q: My site doesn't get alt groups. There are several ways to get alt groups. See your site administrator for more information. If your site administrator won't carry alt groups, you can get a signon on one of the many public access Unix systems that carry the groups such as Portal and Well. In any case, you can still get the code from Fred Fish disks (all published alt.sources.amiga code will be forwarded to Fred) or from comp.sources.amiga when they become available there. Q: Why you? We feel it is necessary. We feel we have the resources to do it right. Call for sources: We're now ready to accept sources for publication in alt.source.amiga that meet the above guidelines. To allow for the newgroup message to propagate, source distribution will begin on July 9th. The mail address for submissions to alt.sources.amiga is: ...!uunet!sugar!amiga-sources Thank you. Peter da Silva, Karl Lehenbauer.
woodsb@killer.UUCP (Brent L. Woods) (06/28/88)
In article <2196@sugar.UUCP> amiga-sources (alt.sources.amiga @ Sugar Land UNIX) writes: > >Q: Why alt.sources.amiga? There is already a comp.sources.amiga. > >The current moderators of comp.sources.amiga maintain an editorial policy >that we do not feel best serves the bulk of the Amiga *programmers* on >Usenet. Oh, really? This comes as news to me. What editorial policy are you referring to, Mr. da Silva? How do you feel that said "policy" does not (if I may paraphrase you) "best serve the bulk of the Amiga *programmers* on Usenet?" Also, you use the first person plural pronoun. To whom does this refer? >We feel that by moderating the group we can maintain a high "signal-to-noise >ratio" by posting submissions that meet the guidelines and by, to some degree, >testing submitted code. Our goal is to keep the advantages of a moderated >newsgroup while still providing quick turnaround of submissions. This is what we (Pat, Rob, and I) try to do. If you wish to do testing *and* try to achieve a quick turnaround, I wish you luck. Personal experience has proven to me that that would *literally* be a full time job. >Q: My site doesn't get alt groups. > [...] >to Fred) or from comp.sources.amiga when they become available there. Unfortunately, any source posted to alt.sources.amiga will *not* become available through comp.sources.amiga. We (the moderators) feel that posting the same thing to both groups would be a needless duplication of effort, as well as being a waste of net bandwidth (an issue currently being debated hotly in news.admin). Also, since the above mentioned source will neither be tested nor posted by the comp.sources.amiga moderators, we will not archive it in either of our archives (the current one at Purdue, and the soon-to-be-established public UUCP archive at killer.UUCP). -- Brent Woods, Co-Moderator, comp.{sources,binaries}.amiga USENET: woodsb@killer.UUCP USNAIL: 320 Brown St., #406 / W. Lafayette, IN 47906 MABELL: +1 (317) 743-8421
ain@s.cc.purdue.edu (Patrick White) (06/29/88)
[I'd follow-up to alt.admin, but we don't get it.. and I think some of what I have to say is of general interest to people who might use this group] In article <2196@sugar.UUCP> amiga-sources (alt.sources.amiga @ Sugar Land UNIX) writes: >Q: Why alt.sources.amiga? There is already a comp.sources.amiga. > >The current moderators of comp.sources.amiga maintain an editorial policy >that we do not feel best serves the bulk of the Amiga *programmers* on >Usenet. As moderators, this is their right. As members of the alt >subnetwork, it is our right to provide this alternative channel. Our policy of posting anything provided it does not crash, isn't an advertisement, and, if it is a demo, might be useful to someone, seems to me like it serves the *programmers* of the net more so that yours.. but providing the alt group is indeed your right, and we certainly won't stand in the way or try to make trouble for you. >Q: My site doesn't get alt groups. > >There are several ways to get alt groups. See your site administrator for >more information. If your site administrator won't carry alt groups, you >can get a signon on one of the many public access Unix systems that carry >the groups such as Portal and Well. In any case, you can still get the code >from Fred Fish disks (all published alt.sources.amiga code will be forwarded >to Fred) or from comp.sources.amiga when they become available there. In keeping with all the noise you have been making in news.admin about getting rid of binaries groups to save net.bandwidth, we decided that it would be a colossel *waste* of bandwidth to have things posted twice. Therefore, we won't post anything that has already shown up in this alt group... and since we can't be sure of what will be posted there, we won't be archiving it either (basically, we are going to treat this group the same way we treat sources posted to comp.sys.amiga). >The mail address for submissions to alt.sources.amiga is: > ...!uunet!sugar!amiga-sources From what I am told, many sites don't recogonize the moderatedness of alt groups.. so please, if you have submissions, help Peter out and send them to him directly instead of posting them to the group... it will help keep confusion down and everything organized. [Ya know Peter, based on what you tell us in mail and what you do on the net, I really should flame you... but instead I'll just ask that you show us a bit of courtesy from time to time.] -- Pat White (co-moderator comp.sources/binaries.amiga) ARPA/UUCP: j.cc.purdue.edu!ain BITNET: PATWHITE@PURCCVM PHONE: (317) 743-8421 U.S. Mail: 320 Brown St. apt. 406, West Lafayette, IN 47906 [How do you get to heaven? Go to Pluto and hang a left.]