wbralick@icc.afit.arpa (William A. Bralick Jr.) (07/21/88)
Is anybody out there working on producing a validated Ada compiler and/or APSE? The Amiga 2000 could really be an impressive Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE) workstation ... Will
eachus@mitre-bedford.ARPA (Robert Eachus) (07/23/88)
In article <423@afit-ab.arpa> wbralick@icc.UUCP (William A. Bralick Jr.) writes: >Is anybody out there working on producing a validated Ada compiler >and/or APSE? The Amiga 2000 could really be an impressive Computer >Aided Software Engineering (CASE) workstation ... > >Will I have talked to two Ada compiler vendors about porting their Ada compilers to the Amiga. RRSoftware and Irvine Compiler Corporation. THe more interesting case is ICC. As of January, they had their compiler running on the Amiga (with a few bugs to be found) using Lattice C as a bootstrap tool. Simply having an Ada compiler gets you nowhere, you need lots of additional pieces of support, both on the Ada side and the Amiga side. The surprising thing is that ICC doesn't think that there is a viable market for Ada on the Amiga, even though as of last December everyone who worked there had one at home... Also, ICC has more work than they can handle, and usually doesn't directly market their compilers. So if you want an Ada compiler for the Amiga, either let ICC know just how many they can sell, or offer to help port and market it. Robert I. Eachus with STANDARD_DISCLAIMER; use STANDARD_DISCLAIMER; function MESSAGE (TEXT: in CLEVER_IDEAS) return BETTER_IDEAS is...
elg@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Eric Green) (07/23/88)
in article <423@afit-ab.arpa>, wbralick@icc.afit.arpa (William A. Bralick Jr.) says: > Is anybody out there working on producing a validated Ada compiler > and/or APSE? The Amiga 2000 could really be an impressive Computer > Aided Software Engineering (CASE) workstation ... The software that you mentioned is, err, massive. You do not go into an Ada compiler project without a couple of years, and a software team of at least 4 people and hopefully more. . Add in documentation people, etc., and we're talking multimillions in venture capital needed, and a lot of organization -- both of which seem to be missing in the Amiga software marketplace (where most companies have 4 people, period, including the secretary and the shipping clerk!). -- Eric Lee Green ..!{ames,decwrl,mit-eddie,osu-cis}!killer!elg Snail Mail P.O. Box 92191 Lafayette, LA 70509 PC Pursuit: A tool for eating characters, intended to render the text you're writing completely unreadable and unproofreadable.
mikb@stcns3.stc.oz (Mike Benson) (08/01/88)
In article <36821@linus.UUCP> eachus@mbunix (Eachus) writes: >In article <423@afit-ab.arpa> wbralick@icc.UUCP (William A. Bralick Jr.) writes: >>Is anybody out there working on producing a validated Ada compiler >>and/or APSE? The Amiga 2000 could really be an impressive Computer >>Aided Software Engineering (CASE) workstation ... >> >>Will > > I have talked to two Ada compiler vendors about porting their Ada >compilers to the Amiga. RRSoftware and Irvine Compiler Corporation. >THe more interesting case is ICC. As of January, they had their >compiler running on the Amiga (with a few bugs to be found) using >Lattice C as a bootstrap tool. Simply having an Ada compiler gets you >nowhere, you need lots of additional pieces of support, both on the >Ada side and the Amiga side. Is it at a stage where it is validatable? A couple of years ago I had the misfortune to do an Ada course at Uni. I liked the language, but the ICC compiler we had was unvalidated, incomplete, and infuriatingly buggy. People get the wrong idea about Ada when the compiler don't work.... > The surprising thing is that ICC doesn't think that there is a >viable market for Ada on the Amiga, even though as of last December >everyone who worked there had one at home... Also, ICC has more work Can't say I'm surprised. Most Amiga programmers/developers/hackers don't believe in the software development philosophy embodied by Ada, and consider her to be a camel like COBOL (avoid at all costs). I'd probably use an Ada compiler for Amy, if one were available, subject to two conditions: i) I could get it here in Oz for a reasonable price ii) It is a validated compiler, AND IT ALL WORKS! Be nice if it compiled direct to assembler, rather than C. I can't commit time to the port, though. > > > Robert I. Eachus Mike Benson Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art. +----------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | Mike Benson | ACS: mikb@stcns3.stc.OZ.AU | | Alcatel-STC Pty Ltd | ARPA: mikb%stcns3.stc.OZ.AU@uunet.UU.NET | | 11th Floor, 5 Blue St | UUCP: {enea,hplabs,mcvax,uunet,ukc}!\ | | North Sydney NSW 2060 AUSTRALIA | munnari!stcns3.stc.OZ.AU!mikb | +----------------------------------+------------------------------------------+