sewilco@datapg.MN.ORG (Scot E. Wilcoxon) (08/08/88)
In article <3613@louie.udel.EDU> iphwk%MTSUNIX1.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu writes: ... >We haven't seen the last of them by any means--viruses are going to be >a permanent part of the computer scene. ... A permanent part of the no-MMU computer scene. When purchasers get frightened enough of viruses they'll buy more machines with MMUs and operating systems which support them. -- Scot E. Wilcoxon sewilco@DataPg.MN.ORG {amdahl|hpda}!bungia!datapg!sewilco Data Progress UNIX masts & rigging +1 612-825-2607 uunet!datapg!sewilco Forecast: "Thunderstorms, followed by blinking digital clocks." The rain should continue for a few more days, while my house is being painted.
rminnich@super.ORG (Ronald G Minnich) (08/08/88)
In article <1377@datapg.MN.ORG> sewilco@datapg.MN.ORG (Scot E. Wilcoxon) writes: >A permanent part of the no-MMU computer scene. When purchasers get frightened >enough of viruses they'll buy more machines with MMUs and operating systems >which support them. Hmm, i think if you think about that long enough, you'll realize that it helps, but it will not eradicate viruses. I refer you to Ken Thompson's ACM talk of a few years back for one view of that subject; also try to get an account of what happened to Gould when they offered a color tv to anyone who could break their 'b2' system. Hint: they had to give away a color tv. MMUs help; you can't eradicate viruses with them, i think. Unrelated note: I see somebody figures that a MAC ][ with A/UX is multitasking. That's true. One question, though: when you are running A/UX, which window do you run HyperCard in? (and that is a serious question, if you really can run hypercard along with A/UX and they can share data you have a real winner on your hands) (If you can't, though, well ... no comment) ron
sneakers@heimat.UUCP (Dan "Sneakers" Schein) (08/10/88)
In Message <600@super.ORG>, rminnich@super.ORG (Ronald G Minnich) writes: >In article <1377@datapg.MN.ORG> sewilco@datapg.MN.ORG (Scot E. Wilcoxon) writes: >>A permanent part of the no-MMU computer scene. When purchasers get frightened >>enough of viruses they'll buy more machines with MMUs and operating systems >>which support them. >Hmm, i think if you think about that long enough, you'll realize that >it helps, but it will not eradicate viruses. I refer you to Ken Thompson's >ACM talk of a few years back for one view of that subject; also >try to get an account of what happened to Gould when they offered >a color tv to anyone who could break their 'b2' system. >Hint: they had to give away a color tv. > MMUs help; you can't eradicate viruses with them, i think. > Boy I couldn't agree more. The #1 important thing to remember here is that programmers (IE: people) design the software & hardware to catch/stop a virus -= AND =- hackers (IE: programmers) design the viruses (sp?) and trojan horses. So like Unix's protection - theres always a hole somewhere to be filled by either the programmer or hacker :-) >ron -- Dan "Sneakers" Schein {ihnp4|allegra|burdvax|rutgers}!cbmvax!heimat!sneakers Sneakers Computing 2455 McKinley Ave West Lawn PA 19609 Call: BERKS AMIGA BBS 24 Hrs - 3/12/2400 Baud Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed are 40 Meg -=- 215/678-7691 those of Sneakers Computing Of course heimat is an Amiga, doesn't everyone run UUCP & UseNet on an Amiga?