conte@uicsrd.csrd.uiuc.edu (08/03/88)
Help, I'm an A2000 trapped inside an A1000 body!
Pleasepleaseplease, CBM!
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Tom Conte Center for Supercomputing Research & Development
University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, Illinois
...The opinions expressed are my own, of course.
uucp: ...!uiucdcs!uicsrd!conte internet: conte@uicsrd.csrd.uiuc.edutws@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Thomas Sarver) (08/05/88)
OK, then here's my Pleading and Begging. I WANT AN A2000. I supported you when you needed those sales. I bought my A1000 ONE MONTH after it started shipping (Oct. '85). Now how about returning the favor! I WANT CHEAP MEMORY UPGRADES! I WANT CHEAP DMA SCSI CONTROLLERS! I WANT FLICKER-FIXER! I WANT 68020 RUNNING X-WINDOWS, 68000 RUNNING AMIGADOS, AND 80286 RUNNING MS-DOS! How's 'dat? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ But hey, its the best country in the world! Thomas W. Sarver "The complexity of a system is proportional to the factorial of its atoms. One can only hope to minimize the complexity of the micro-system in which one finds oneself." -TWS Addendum: "... or migrate to a less complex micro-system."
page@swan.ulowell.edu (Bob Page) (08/05/88)
It's great you want to trade in your A1000, but send your note to Commodore, OK? The rest of the world doesn't care. ..Bob -- Bob Page, U of Lowell CS Dept. page@swan.ulowell.edu ulowell!page "What a wonder is USENET; such wholesale production of conjecture from such a trifling investment in fact." -- Carl S. Gutekunst
sdl@linus.UUCP (Steven D. Litvintchouk) (08/09/88)
In article <16894@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> tws@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Thomas Sarver) writes: > OK, then here's my Pleading and Begging. > > I WANT AN A2000. I supported you when you needed those sales. I bought my > A1000 ONE MONTH after it started shipping (Oct. '85). Now how about returning > the favor! > I WANT CHEAP MEMORY UPGRADES! I WANT CHEAP DMA SCSI CONTROLLERS! I WANT > FLICKER-FIXER! I WANT 68020 RUNNING X-WINDOWS, 68000 RUNNING AMIGADOS, AND > 80286 RUNNING MS-DOS! 1. What stopped you from taking advantage of the tradein deal last year? Commodore extended the deal several times, giving you plenty of time to decide whether the Amiga 2000's expansion capabilities were worth the $1000 (at most) to tradein (not even considering the Amiga 1000 buyback deals which were also available!). If you couldn't afford the $1000 tradein deal, how come you can afford to buy all this expansion hardware for the Amiga 2000? 2. You might wait for the Amiga 2500's to start shipping, and hope that the price of an Amiga 2000 will drop. 3. You might wait for the Amiga 3000, at which time the price of an Amiga 2000 will almost certainly drop. Steven Litvintchouk MITRE Corporation Burlington Road Bedford, MA 01730 Fone: (617)271-7753 ARPA: sdl@mitre-bedford.arpa UUCP: ...{cbosgd,decvax,genrad,ll-xn,mit-eddie,philabs,utzoo}!linus!sdl "Those who will be able to conquer software will be able to conquer the world." -- Tadahiro Sekimoto, president, NEC Corp.
peter@sugar.uu.net (Peter da Silva) (08/09/88)
While I think all this Pleading and Begging is silly and undignified, Steven's comment needs some response: In article <38258@linus.UUCP>, sdl@linus.UUCP (Steven D. Litvintchouk) writes: > 1. What stopped you from taking advantage of the tradein deal last year? Probably, like me, money. > If you couldn't afford the $1000 tradein deal, how come you can afford > to buy all this expansion hardware for the Amiga 2000? I don't know about you, but my income and expenses vary quite a bit as time goes by. -- Peter da Silva `-_-' peter@sugar.uu.net Have you hugged U your wolf today?
disd@hubcap.UUCP (Gary Heffelfinger) (08/10/88)
From article <38258@linus.UUCP>, by sdl@linus.UUCP (Steven D. Litvintchouk): > > In article <16894@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> tws@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Thomas Sarver) writes: > >> OK, then here's my Pleading and Begging. Some Pleading and Begging deleted >> I WANT AN A2000. I supported you when you needed those sales. I bought my >> A1000 ONE MONTH after it started shipping (Oct. '85). Now how about returning >> the favor! I want one too, but I'm not planning to beg Commodore to bail me out. > > 1. What stopped you from taking advantage of the tradein deal last year? > Commodore extended the deal several times, giving you plenty of time > to decide whether the Amiga 2000's expansion capabilities were > worth the $1000 (at most) to tradein (not even considering the > Amiga 1000 buyback deals which were also available!). If you > couldn't afford the $1000 tradein deal, how come you can afford > to buy all this expansion hardware for the Amiga 2000? Agreed. I just called Computer Mail Order and they told me that their A2000 price is $1449. Geez. Surely one can sell one's A1000 for $300 or $400. At this point you're talking about much the same deal as you had when C= offered the generous trade up deal. I didn't have the cash to trade up when C= offered. That was life. Now I've got the cash and the will, and I've found that the mail order dealers can make the way almost as sweet as it was when C= made its offer. So quitcher bitchin and find a suck... um, person to buy your A1000. > > 2. You might wait for the Amiga 2500's to start shipping, and hope that > the price of an Amiga 2000 will drop. Maybe, but I suspect that the RAM prices will drive the price up, or at least keep it level. > > 3. You might wait for the Amiga 3000, at which time the price of an > Amiga 2000 will almost certainly drop. Probably, but who wants to wait *that* long? :-) :-) -- Gary Heffelfinger --- Employed by, but not the mouthpiece of Clemson University. ---=== Amiga. The computer for the best of us. ===---
manes@xanth.cs.odu.edu (Mark Manes) (08/10/88)
There were comments asking why folks did not take up the deal the first time around. The answer is simple, in my case, it was called Christmas... but that is not the real subject... The message also stated that we should wait for the Amiga 2500 and that should drive the price down. From what I have heard, the A2500 will be sold as a upgrade to A2000's since that is what it is. Also, according to my local dealer who got a special audience with Max Toy... A quote "The Amiga systems are under priced as they are...." That was in response to my dealer asking for lower retail/dealer pricing. Just thought you folks would like to know! -mark= --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark D. Manes "In Amiga We Trust" Programmer of Fortune, have compiler will travel "C is the Only programming Language that would compile a Ronald Reagan Speech" - the masked programmer ===========================================================================
dca@kesmai.COM (David C. Albrecht) (08/11/88)
In article <2542@hubcap.UUCP>, disd@hubcap.UUCP (Gary Heffelfinger) writes: > > Agreed. I just called Computer Mail Order and they told me that their > A2000 price is $1449. Geez. Surely one can sell one's A1000 for $300 > or $400. At this point you're talking about much the same deal as you > had when C= offered the generous trade up deal. I didn't have the cash > to trade up when C= offered. That was life. Now I've got the cash and > the will, and I've found that the mail order dealers can make the way > almost as sweet as it was when C= made its offer. So quitcher bitchin > and find a suck... um, person to buy your A1000. > > -- > Gary Heffelfinger --- Employed by, but not the mouthpiece of > Clemson University. > ---=== Amiga. The computer for the best of us. ===--- Well, not exactly. When the trade in deal was on I got a 2000 for $1000 and got to keep my 1000. I then sold the 1000 for $500 and swapped my microbotics 2M memory expansion (with multi-function) for a 2M Micron board. Therefore my total upgrade cost was $500, not $1000 and the guy I sold the 1000 to got the 1000, 2M Microbotics with the multifunction daughter board for around $850 all told. I think we both did well on the deal. I therefore can understand people who still have an 1000 and now have the scratch to trade to the 2000 being interested in the trade-in offer if Commodore hinted they might be willing to re-instate it because it is quite possible there might be some similar deals. David Albrecht