bilbo@pnet02.cts.com (Bill Daggett) (08/25/88)
steve@dcdwest.UUCP (Steve Meloche) writes: > >is not to draw attention to the Amiga-ST wars but just to comment on another >example of seemingly intentional ignorance on behalf of the media. I hear that >the Amiga users here are giving them a hard time on their BBS now! Well, maybe that is all we can constructively do is give Computer Chronicles a hard time too. If Commodore can't wake the industry up and we are concerned about the Amiga position and the affect shows like this could have on future Amiga interest WE may have to give these people a hard time. It's a LIE to think the Amiga doesn't exist and its the poorest journalism to produce a show about multi-tasking and not mention the Amiga. And I'm not even thinking about "which computer is better". So, who knows how to reach these people and let's WRITE them. Let's WRITE to other news media. Let's sell the Amiga. It doesn't look like Commodore can do it all themselves. If all we do is talk about it and take no action we are "wasting bandwidth". Hey, we are writing! Bill UUCP: {ames!elroy, <backbone>}!gryphon!pnet02!bilbo INET: bilbo@pnet02.cts.com * Sometimes The Dragon Wins! * Still looking for the best Amiga BBS software to resurrect Bilbo's Hideaway on - but not holding breath!
jim@athsys.uucp (Jim Becker) (08/26/88)
From article <5888@gryphon.CTS.COM>, by bilbo@pnet02.cts.com (Bill Daggett): > steve@dcdwest.UUCP (Steve Meloche) writes: >> >>example of seemingly intentional ignorance on behalf of the media. > > Well, maybe that is all we can constructively do is give Computer Chronicles a > hard time too. If Commodore can't wake the industry up and we are concerned > The problem is not specifically Computer Chronicles, it is Commodore. I was on Computer Chronicles, showing Amiga products, *TWO* years ago. I was showing my product, InfoMinder, accessing Genlocked VideoDisc of the National Gallery of Art (in Washington,DC). I had an Amiga 1000, Genlock 1300, and Byte by Byte Pal expansion box (40mb disk and memory). Zipping up color screens and images faster than they could be comprehended. This was a multi-media "hyperinformation" product -- a full year before HyperCard was announced. But it never shipped !! Why ?? What of the above products are still being manufactured, if they were ever manufactured. None !! There is no support, much less complete and solid debugging of the products. Half of the shipped Genlock 1300s were returned because of defects, but they shipped a couple of years after being announced. (I heard rumor that this was because the Gov. was going to go after CBM for false and misleading advertising). In the end, it is simply Commodore that is to blame. There are a lot of hardworking Amiga people, original designers as well as third party, that Commodore screwed. A year ago, after HyperCard became the "great revelation", I walked away from the Amiga. I realized that there was no future in unsupported products for more than hackers and gamers (which I am not). It's really too bad, as it's still the best game in town for creating wonderful software -- but it's a game that is tough to win! > So, who knows how to reach these people and let's WRITE them. Let's WRITE to > other news media. Let's sell the Amiga. It doesn't look like Commodore can > do it all themselves. If all we do is talk about it and take no action we are > "wasting bandwidth". Hey, we are writing! > > Bill This is exactly CBMs' strategy, they want everyone to go out and promote and sell the Amiga -- except them. They want the user groups and the people to be their Sales and Marketing division. They will give you a discount on THEIR products if you sell THEIR computers. Look at the various _successful_ companies, totally corporate strategy. Don't you ever wonder where the $500+ million that CBM has taken in on the Amiga has gone ?? I sure do. As a side note, Mac third-party software sales were over $100 million for the last fiscal quarter. -Jim Becker Recovering ex-Amiga Addict and Programmer. I have learned.