[comp.sys.amiga] Reproduction Announcements

mjw@f.gp.cs.cmu.edu (Michael Witbrock) (09/11/88)

I don't like to sound mean, but enough already with the reproduction 
announcements. I mean, really, I'm sure that all your offspring are very cute
and all, and that I'd like them a whole lot if I met them, but, let's face it,
making babies is something that any fool can (and probably will) do.

Feel free to tack such announcements onto the end of other messages, but there
seem to be a rash of 'hey, I've bred' announcements cluttering the bb's at the
moment.

Thank-you for listening, and best wishes to you all, your partners and your
descendents.

michael
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elg@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Eric Green) (09/12/88)

in article <2945@pt.cs.cmu.edu>, mjw@f.gp.cs.cmu.edu (Michael Witbrock) says:
> I don't like to sound mean, but enough already with the reproduction 
> announcements.

Buzz off, twit.

(gosh, that made me feel better, but maybe I ought to rephrase this in
more, uhm, "correct" terms:)

I don't feel that a discrete notice of that sort, to one's colleagues,
is out-of-place here on comp.sys.amiga. Little Julie (or whoever)
isn't "what comes 9 months after fucking", he/she is an actual living
breathing unique individual and many parents derive great joy from
bringing life into this world where death can all-too-easy be the
result of our actions. I see no reason to rain on their parade with
tasteless messages complaining that it wasn't yet another article in
the endless streams of trivia and stupid questions that plague the
net.

Congratulations, Dan, John Toebes XVII, et. al. I am sure that your
children will be warm, caring, intelligent individuals -- unlike some
of us here.

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kevin@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (Kevin Clague) (09/12/88)

In article <5482@killer.DALLAS.TX.US> elg@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Eric Green) writes:
>in article <2945@pt.cs.cmu.edu>, mjw@f.gp.cs.cmu.edu (Michael Witbrock) says:
>> I don't like to sound mean, but enough already with the reproduction 
>> announcements.
>
>Buzz off, twit.
>
>(gosh, that made me feel better, but maybe I ought to rephrase this in
>more, uhm, "correct" terms:)
>
>I don't feel that a discrete notice of that sort, to one's colleagues,
>is out-of-place here on comp.sys.amiga.
>                       I see no reason to rain on their parade with
>tasteless messages complaining that it wasn't yet another article in
>the endless streams of trivia and stupid questions that plague the
>net.

I agree completely.  Has Michael spawned any offspring?  If so, I think
he might understand the joy that Dan and John feel.  After all,  it
they raise their kids properly, they will grow up to be sick Amiga
2,000,000 (the Amiga model number of thier day) programmers like the
rest of us.

There is a lot of fluff in this newsgroup.  I don't consider announcements
like this as fluff.  I like to think of this newgroup as a community
(of friends.)  Michael has had a chance to reconsider his statements
and is feeling kinda sorry, so it sounds like he is a friend too.

>
>Congratulations, Dan, John Toebes XVII, et. al. I am sure that your
>children will be warm, caring, intelligent individuals --

... like many of us here......

>Eric Lee Green    ..!{ames,decwrl,mit-eddie,osu-cis}!killer!elg

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cjp@antique.UUCP (Charles Poirier) (09/13/88)

In article <5482@killer.DALLAS.TX.US> elg@killer.UUCP writes:
>in article <2945@pt.cs.cmu.edu>, mjw@f.gp.cs.cmu.edu (Michael Witbrock) says:
>> I don't like to sound mean, but enough already with the reproduction 
>> announcements.
>
>Buzz off, twit.
...
>I don't feel that a discrete [sic*] notice of that sort, to one's colleagues,

Use mail to address specific colleagues.  Broadcasting personal
information to the whole worldwide net is a bit self-centered.

>is out-of-place here on comp.sys.amiga. Little Julie (or whoever)
>isn't "what comes 9 months after fucking", he/she is an actual living
>breathing unique individual and many parents derive great joy from
>bringing life into this world where death can all-too-easy [sic**] be the
>result of our actions.

My cat Frankie was really sweet this morning.  He rubbed up against my
leg, and purred and everything.  It made me feel really good.  I just
had to share that special moment with my Amiga friends on Usenet.
Hi, cat-lovers!

Now wasn't that appropriate?  No?  Frankly, I'm glad for you people
with children, but it doesn't really help me appreciate my Amiga.
Maybe you could start up a misc.babies group if the level of interest
and New Year's parties warrants it.  I write this not out of meanness,
but just because I hate to see a trend reinforced, along the lines of
"well another irrelevant posting won't do any harm since there's so
much junk online already".

>I see no reason to rain on their parade with tasteless messages 

But their parade permit doesn't show comp.sys.amiga on the parade route.

Tasteless?  Mine is certainly tasteless, but Michael's message was
rather tasteful, and never once used words like, quote, >Buzz off, twit.

>complaining that it wasn't yet another article in
>the endless streams of trivia and stupid questions that plague the net.

Let's all follow bad examples then?  Noise + noise = more noise than
ever.  "Plague" is right.  Sometimes it helps for someone to say "Shh!"

>Eric Lee Green    ..!{ames,decwrl,mit-eddie,osu-cis}!killer!elg

* Discrete means distinct or noncontinuous.  Discreet means prudent or tactful.
** all-too-easily...

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dhines@utastro.UUCP (Dean Hines) (09/13/88)

[Donning my flame retardent sunglasses...]

In article <2399@antique.UUCP>, cjp@antique.UUCP (Charles Poirier) writes:
>
> My cat Frankie was really sweet this morning.  He rubbed up against my
> leg, and purred and everything.  It made me feel really good.  I just
> had to share that special moment with my Amiga friends on Usenet.
> Hi, cat-lovers!
>
Oh come on now ...
> 
> Now wasn't that appropriate?  No?  Frankly, I'm glad for you people
> with children, but it doesn't really help me appreciate my Amiga.
>

I tend to agree that perhaps this is best left off the net, but it was
rather nice to celebrate with the new parents.
And those who posted produce lots of useful bandwidth and
their signal-to-noise ratio is pretty high in general.

Let's just say congrats, and ... get on with it ...

[sunglasses off]

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stever@videovax.Tek.COM (Steven E. Rice, P.E.) (09/14/88)

In article <2945@pt.cs.cmu.edu>, Michael Witbrock (mjw@f.gp.cs.cmu.edu)
writes:

> I don't like to sound mean, but enough already with the reproduction 
> announcements.  . . .

I guess there is no way to politely suggest that someone go jump in a
lake, but I would like to urge Michael (and others of Grinchly demeanor)
to be a bit less vocal in their rejection of things non-computational.
I, for one, am happy to hear that some of the Amiga's brightest stars
are, in fact, human!

Keep those announcements coming, guys!  (Hmmm. . .  Is that *exactly*
what I meant to say???)

					Steve Rice

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richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) (09/14/88)

The tally so far:

Reproduction announcements: 395 bytes
Bitching about reproduction announcements: 1728 bytes.

Including this article: 2151 bytes.

Including the last line: 2178 bytes.

Damn.

Including the last two lines: 2206.

Dammit dammit dammit. Self reference ain't what it used to be.


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iwm@asun3.ic.ac.uk (Ian Moor) (09/14/88)

Maybe future announcements should go to comp.newprod :-)

stever@videovax.Tek.COM (Steven E. Rice, P.E.) (09/17/88)

In article <2399@antique.UUCP>, Charles Poirier (vax135!cjp) writes
(regarding birth announcements and their followups):

> Use mail to address specific colleagues.  Broadcasting personal
> information to the whole worldwide net is a bit self-centered.

There is no accounting for tastes.  Some like to hear a bit of
unadulterated good news from time to time.  Others are only interested in
counting the number of processes that can dance on the head of a hard
disk.

I hope those of you who, like Charles, complained about the various
announcements will consider how many fewer articles there would have been
on the subject, both pro and con, if you had just pressed the "n" key.
And I will continue to enjoy (and vocally support) such announcements in
the future. . .

					Steve Rice

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Roger@cup.portal.com (09/18/88)

[megs of reprodution announcments and bitching (both sides) removed...]

Could we move on now?  At least move this somewhere else.

...Roger...

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paul@geacsw.UUCP (Paul Gooderham) (09/22/88)

>consider how many fewer articles there would have been
>on the subject, both pro and con, if you had just pressed the "n" key.
>					Steve Rice

Unfortunately, some of the announcements were disguised as something else
(such as "software announcements").  This, of course, was *very* funny :-(
but it sucked a lot of people in and made me feel rather foolish for 
wasting my time on it.  If n * 1000 people waste 1 minute each, it adds up.

The least we can expect is a "Subject" that matches the body of the message
and that goes for all topics, not just this one.  With the large volume
in this group, it would help a lot.

Thank you for your valuable time (honestly).
 
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stever@videovax.Tek.COM (Steven E. Rice, P.E.) (09/23/88)

In article <9197@cup.portal.com>, Roger Holmstedt (Roger@cup.portal.com)
writes:

> [megs of reprodution announcments and bitching (both sides) removed...]
> 
> Could we move on now?  At least move this somewhere else.

Dear, dear Roger!  If you had only resisted the temptation to complain
about what was obviously moving on, it would have moved on that much
faster.  There are times when it is better just to hit the "n" key. . .

					Steve Rice

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stever@videovax.Tek.COM (Steven E. Rice, P.E.) (09/29/88)

In article <146@geacsw.UUCP>, Paul Gooderham (paul@geacsw.UUCP) writes:

>> consider how many fewer articles there would have been
>> on the subject, both pro and con, if you had just pressed the "n" key.
>>					Steve Rice
> 
> Unfortunately, some of the announcements were disguised as something else
> (such as "software announcements").  This, of course, was *very* funny :-(
> but it sucked a lot of people in and made me feel rather foolish for 
> wasting my time on it.  If n * 1000 people waste 1 minute each, it adds up.

Just think how much more time you wasted replying to my posting!!!

By the bye, I seem to be in the other camp.  I *enjoyed* the various
postings!  It should be kept in mind that those who were posting were
in the main people whose industry and generosity have benefited me and
many others on the net.  I am happy to hear that their lives have been
enriched -- not angry because they dared to share something that I 
can't immediately download and run!!

I hope to hear more happy news as time goes on (if for no other reason,
it proves that at least some of you are human. . .).

					Steve Rice

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