sean@ms.uky.edu (Sean Casey) (09/18/88)
The vlt docs on ucbvax (I don't know who put them there) are bad. The
dvi file has no postamble. Yes, I used binary mode in ftp. Yes, I really
know what I am doing.
Could we get the TeX sources for the doc file posted there? That way if
we don't have a font that the dvi file demands, I can change things a
bit. I also might want to use a style file to fill up more of the page
(if it's in LaTeX, that is).
Sean
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We ran into the same problem with dvi file in vltdocs.zoo from ucbvax. The TeX/Latex source would be nice.
mjl@ut-emx.UUCP (mjl) (09/18/88)
In article <10258@s.ms.uky.edu>, sean@ms.uky.edu (Sean Casey) writes: > > The vlt docs on ucbvax (I don't know who put them there) are bad. The > dvi file has no postamble. Yes, I used binary mode in ftp. Yes, I really > know what I am doing. > > Could we get the TeX sources for the doc file posted there? That way if > we don't have a font that the dvi file demands, I can change things a > bit. I also might want to use a style file to fill up more of the page > (if it's in LaTeX, that is). The docs are in TeX, and there are a few problems in getting it: (1) although the TeX docs are available (from bix, I have them), a macro package from Stanford was used. Thus the tex file is practically useless. I don't know how big this macro file is, maybe I could talk Willy (Langeveld) into posting it. (2) the .dvi file you mentioned (I think it originally came from me) may have suffered some transmission damage before I got it. I was able to print it even though some pages came out as garbage -- these I could reprint individually. I've been trying to get an intact version but the person I got it from had a reproduction in the family and is pretty busy. (3) the ASCII docs are always a possibility, but Willy says that it's got some typos (he isn't responsible -- someone chopped all the tex formatting out of the main doc file to create it). It would be best to solve this problem by getting both the necessary macro package and an intact .dvi file for the ftp archive, and I'll try to pursue this. Meanwhile, interested users should contact Willy at WGLP09@SLACVM.BITNET for copies of the manual (I can also provide copies, but am a bit slow at answering my mail sometimes). Maurice LeBrun, Institute for Fusion Studies, University of Texas at Austin Internet: mjl%fusion.decnet@chpc.brc.utexas.edu Phone: 512-442-7636 H or mjl%uta.mfenet@nmfecc.arpa 512-471-6149 W "If cows ate plankton, whales would starve"
wn0e+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Nichols) (09/29/88)
I got the VLT docs ,as a .dvi file, from csd4.milw.wisc.edu via anonymous ftp
and they worked fine.
BTW I have been using VTL as a terminal on a VAX runder VMS. It has some
problems though when I run applications using the DI3000 graphics package. It
works fine when the di3000 device type is set to tek4010, but when the device
type is set to 4014, or 4105, I run into a couple of problems. Text
(generated by di3000) appearing on the tek screen does not seem to start where
is should, but rather whereever the curser happens to be at the time.
The other problem is that it does not switch between the alpha-numeric and
graphics screens
correctly. The FORTRAN program which uses DI3000 has some write and print
startments.
The problem is that when in 4014 or 4105 mode, the text always comes up on the
graphics screen.
In 4010 mode, I switch to to alpha-numeric screen, and only after the text is
finished displaying
will it switch to graphics.
When I do this on a MAC running versiterm, 4105 ,4014 works just as well as
4010.
Am I doing something wrong, or is VLT just not complete as a 4014/4105 emulator?
WRNejkst@cisunx.UUCP (Eric J. Kennedy) (09/30/88)
In article <EXEaCBy00V4CE5nExl@andrew.cmu.edu> wn0e+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Nichols) writes: >BTW I have been using VLT as a terminal on a VAX runder VMS. It has some >problems though when I run applications using the DI3000 graphics package. It >works fine when the di3000 device type is set to tek4010, but when the device I have a graphics program I wrote to address a tek 4106 or 4107 terminal. I have no idea how these relate to the 4010 or 4014 or any other tek terminal. Is one a subset of the other, or are they completely different? Bottom line, will VLT work with this? Thanks, -- ------------ Eric Kennedy ejkst@cisunx.UUCP
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (10/01/88)
In article <12898@cisunx.UUCP> ejkst@unix.cis.pittsburgh.edu (Eric J. Kennedy) writes: >In article <EXEaCBy00V4CE5nExl@andrew.cmu.edu> wn0e+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Nichols) writes: >>BTW I have been using VLT as a terminal on a VAX runder VMS. It has some >>problems though when I run applications using the DI3000 graphics package. It >>works fine when the di3000 device type is set to tek4010, but when the device > >I have a graphics program I wrote to address a tek 4106 or 4107 >terminal. I have no idea how these relate to the 4010 or 4014 or any >other tek terminal. Is one a subset of the other, or are they >completely different? Bottom line, will VLT work with this? The Tek 4010 and 4014 are "monochrome" vector displays. As such, programs such as VLT and A-Talk III do emulate all of the 4010/4014 features except defocused mode. The Tek 4105 is the low-end "color" tek vector machine. The tek 4107 adds "surfaces" and an extended command set. Both feature integrated graphics and ANSI emulation on separate or the same screen. VLT emulates only the simpler tek 4105 routines, move pen, draw, set color, set colormap and set pattern (this one is not fully implemented). That's it. Which means that most 4105-4107 compatible commercial programs won't work with it. If you write a program that uses ONLY the above commands, VLT is for you. -- Marco Papa 'Doc' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
ejkst%cisunx.uucp@UDEL.EDU (10/04/88)
Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X2.00) with BSMTP id 4734; Fri, 30 Sep 88 19:51:27 EDT Received: from UDEL.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Fri, 30 Sep 88 19:51:24 EDT Received: from Louie.UDEL.EDU by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa12585; 30 Sep 88 15:12 EDT Received: from USENET by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa12464; 30 Sep 88 15:07 EDT From: "Eric J. Kennedy" <ejkst@cisunx.uucp> Subject: Re: VLT docs on ucbvax are bad Message-ID: <12898@cisunx.UUCP> Date: 30 Sep 88 14:27:14 GMT Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh, Comp & Info Sys To: amiga-relay@UDEL.EDU Sender: amiga-relay-request@UDEL.EDU In article <EXEaCBy00V4CE5nExl@andrew.cmu.edu> wn0e+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Nichols) writes: >BTW I have been using VLT as a terminal on a VAX runder VMS. It has some >problems though when I run applications using the DI3000 graphics package. It >works fine when the di3000 device type is set to tek4010, but when the device I have a graphics program I wrote to address a tek 4106 or 4107 terminal. I have no idea how these relate to the 4010 or 4014 or any other tek terminal. Is one a subset of the other, or are they completely different? Bottom line, will VLT work with this? Thanks, -- ------------ Eric Kennedy ejkst@cisunx.UUCP
papa%pollux.usc.edu@UDEL.EDU (10/04/88)
Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X2.00) with BSMTP id 4252; Sat, 01 Oct 88 23:45:58 EDT Received: from UDEL.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Sat, 01 Oct 88 23:45:53 EDT Received: from Louie.UDEL.EDU by Louie.UDEL.EDU id ad23553; 1 Oct 88 4:04 EDT Received: from USENET by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa23468; 1 Oct 88 3:56 EDT From: Marco Papa <papa@pollux.usc.edu> Subject: Re: VLT docs on ucbvax are bad Message-ID: <12490@oberon.USC.EDU> Date: 1 Oct 88 00:06:14 GMT Organization: Felsina Software, Los Angeles, CA To: amiga-relay@UDEL.EDU Sender: amiga-relay-request@UDEL.EDU In article <12898@cisunx.UUCP> ejkst@unix.cis.pittsburgh.edu (Eric J. Kennedy) writes: >In article <EXEaCBy00V4CE5nExl@andrew.cmu.edu> wn0e+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Nichols) writes: >>BTW I have been using VLT as a terminal on a VAX runder VMS. It has some >>problems though when I run applications using the DI3000 graphics package. It >>works fine when the di3000 device type is set to tek4010, but when the device > >I have a graphics program I wrote to address a tek 4106 or 4107 >terminal. I have no idea how these relate to the 4010 or 4014 or any >other tek terminal. Is one a subset of the other, or are they >completely different? Bottom line, will VLT work with this? The Tek 4010 and 4014 are "monochrome" vector displays. As such, programs such as VLT and A-Talk III do emulate all of the 4010/4014 features except defocused mode. The Tek 4105 is the low-end "color" tek vector machine. The tek 4107 adds "surfaces" and an extended command set. Both feature integrated graphics and ANSI emulation on separate or the same screen. VLT emulates only the simpler tek 4105 routines, move pen, draw, set color, set colormap and set pattern (this one is not fully implemented). That's it. Which means that most 4105-4107 compatible commercial programs won't work with it. If you write a program that uses ONLY the above commands, VLT is for you. -- Marco Papa 'Doc' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X2.00) with BSMTP id 5063; Mon, 03 Oct 88 20:06:36 EDT Received: from UDEL.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Mon, 03 Oct 88 20:06:30 EDT Received: from Louie.UDEL.EDU by Louie.UDEL.EDU id ao10567; 3 Oct 88 18:16 EDT Received: from USENET by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa10430; 3 Oct 88 18:01 EDT From: ejkst%cisunx.uucp@UDEL.EDU Subject: Re: VLT docs on ucbvax are bad Message-ID: <4396@louie.udel.EDU> Date: 3 Oct 88 22:00:49 GMT To: amiga-relay@UDEL.EDU Sender: amiga-relay-request@UDEL.EDU Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X2.00) with BSMTP id 4734; Fri, 30 Sep 88 19:51:27 EDT Received: from UDEL.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Fri, 30 Sep 88 19:51:24 EDT Received: from Louie.UDEL.EDU by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa12585; 30 Sep 88 15:12 EDT Received: from USENET by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa12464; 30 Sep 88 15:07 EDT From: "Eric J. Kennedy" <ejkst@cisunx.uucp> Subject: Re: VLT docs on ucbvax are bad Message-ID: <12898@cisunx.UUCP> Date: 30 Sep 88 14:27:14 GMT Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh, Comp & Info Sys To: amiga-relay@UDEL.EDU Sender: amiga-relay-request@UDEL.EDU In article <EXEaCBy00V4CE5nExl@andrew.cmu.edu> wn0e+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Nichols) writes: >BTW I have been using VLT as a terminal on a VAX runder VMS. It has some >problems though when I run applications using the DI3000 graphics package. It >works fine when the di3000 device type is set to tek4010, but when the device I have a graphics program I wrote to address a tek 4106 or 4107 terminal. I have no idea how these relate to the 4010 or 4014 or any other tek terminal. Is one a subset of the other, or are they completely different? Bottom line, will VLT work with this? Thanks, -- ------------ Eric Kennedy ejkst@cisunx.UUCP
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Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X2.00) with BSMTP id 7009; Tue, 04 Oct 88 01:00:19 EDT Received: from UDEL.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Tue, 04 Oct 88 01:00:13 EDT Received: from Louie.UDEL.EDU by Louie.UDEL.EDU id ab14359; 3 Oct 88 20:14 EDT Received: from USENET by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa14324; 3 Oct 88 20:09 EDT From: ejkst%cisunx.uucp%UDEL.EDU@cunyvm.cuny.edu Subject: Re: VLT docs on ucbvax are bad Message-ID: <4473@louie.udel.EDU> Date: 4 Oct 88 00:09:41 GMT To: amiga-relay@UDEL.EDU Sender: amiga-relay-request@UDEL.EDU Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X2.00) with BSMTP id 5063; Mon, 03 Oct 88 20:06:36 EDT Received: from UDEL.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Mon, 03 Oct 88 20:06:30 EDT Received: from Louie.UDEL.EDU by Louie.UDEL.EDU id ao10567; 3 Oct 88 18:16 EDT Received: from USENET by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa10430; 3 Oct 88 18:01 EDT From: ejkst%cisunx.uucp@UDEL.EDU Subject: Re: VLT docs on ucbvax are bad Message-ID: <4396@louie.udel.EDU> Date: 3 Oct 88 22:00:49 GMT To: amiga-relay@UDEL.EDU Sender: amiga-relay-request@UDEL.EDU Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X2.00) with BSMTP id 4734; Fri, 30 Sep 88 19:51:27 EDT Received: from UDEL.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Fri, 30 Sep 88 19:51:24 EDT Received: from Louie.UDEL.EDU by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa12585; 30 Sep 88 15:12 EDT Received: from USENET by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa12464; 30 Sep 88 15:07 EDT From: "Eric J. Kennedy" <ejkst@cisunx.uucp> Subject: Re: VLT docs on ucbvax are bad Message-ID: <12898@cisunx.UUCP> Date: 30 Sep 88 14:27:14 GMT Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh, Comp & Info Sys To: amiga-relay@UDEL.EDU Sender: amiga-relay-request@UDEL.EDU In article <EXEaCBy00V4CE5nExl@andrew.cmu.edu> wn0e+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Nichols) writes: >BTW I have been using VLT as a terminal on a VAX runder VMS. It has some >problems though when I run applications using the DI3000 graphics package. It >works fine when the di3000 device type is set to tek4010, but when the device I have a graphics program I wrote to address a tek 4106 or 4107 terminal. I have no idea how these relate to the 4010 or 4014 or any other tek terminal. Is one a subset of the other, or are they completely different? Bottom line, will VLT work with this? Thanks, -- ------------ Eric Kennedy ejkst@cisunx.UUCP