cheung@vu-vlsi.Villanova.EDU (Wilson Cheung) (09/28/88)
Well, I just received my cancelled check from Soft Logik, indicating that Publishing Partner is finished. I contacted Soft Logik and the shipping date has been set for October 10. One interesting note is that Gold Disk has sent out offers to Page Setter owners of an upgrade offer of $100 for Professional Page. This offer does not require that you send in your Page Setter disk, especially if you have already sent it to Soft Logik for there special "upgrade" offer. The catch is that you have to act fast, before Sept 31st. I have grown somewhat suspicious if Soft Logik can deliver Publishing Partner as stated in its advertisements and brochure, especially after several months of delays, and the number they did to the Atari ST users when they officially released prerelease versions of their product do to pressure from the Atari community. Therefore, I have decided to snatch up Gold Disks offer. So for $150 total I have a proven and tested, top of the line desk top publisher that'll hog up my 2.5 Meg Amiga with ease but give me all the features I may ever need and a potentially equally competent package that will work with 512K, and will offer superior dot matrix output. Wilson Cheung
daveb@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Berezowski) (09/30/88)
In article <1926@vu-vlsi.Villanova.EDU> cheung@vu-vlsi.Villanova.EDU (Wilson Cheung) writes: > >pressure from the Atari community. Therefore, I have decided to snatch up >Gold Disks offer. So for $150 total I have a proven and tested, top of >the line desk top publisher that'll hog up my 2.5 Meg Amiga with ease >but give me all the features I may ever need and a potentially equally >competent package that will work with 512K, and will offer superior dot >matrix output. > While I think that Gold Disk's Professional Page V1.1 is an excellant produce I must point out one inaccuracy in your above statement. The current dot matrix output from PP V1.1 does not match the PROPOSED (important word here) output from Publising Partner due to the different ways both programs get their data to the printer. Professional Page V1.1 works in an internal resolution of 120x72 dpi. When it outputs a page to a non PostScript printer it creates a rastport which is approx. 960 x 720 dots (120 dpi x 8 inches and 72 dpi x 10 inches). If your printer's resolution is greater than this then you will experience some chunkiness in the output. Of couse if you output to a PostScript printer then you'll catch beautiful output at the resolution of the printer (usually 300 dpi). Publishing Partner Plus chose a different approach. They plan to look at the resolution of the printer and create a rastport at the resolution of the printer. They then plan to render into this rastport and then dump it. This should give PostScript like output on any non PostScript printer. Some things to keep in mind: - you can go and buy Professional Page V1.1 right now - Publising Partner Plus isn't out yet
daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) (10/01/88)
in article <4886@cbmvax.UUCP>, daveb@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Berezowski) says: > Keywords: Release date set > In article <1926@vu-vlsi.Villanova.EDU> cheung@vu-vlsi.Villanova.EDU (Wilson Cheung) writes: >>pressure from the Atari community. Therefore, I have decided to snatch up >>Gold Disks offer. ... > While I think that Gold Disk's Professional Page V1.1 is an > excellant produce I must point out one inaccuracy in your above statement. > The current dot matrix output from PP V1.1 does not match the PROPOSED > (important word here) output from Publising Partner due to the different > ways both programs get their data to the printer. If you need high power DTP today, or color DTP in the near future, and you have access to a Postscript printer, PP V1.1 is what you want. In fact, I just took advantage of the upgrade offer myself, having this nice Eicon Postscript printer sitting right next door. However, PP V1.1 isn't all that great for dot matrix printers, and it doesn't pretend to be. ProPage uses an internal working resolution, since obviously you need something for screen display. Appropriate Amiga fonts are used to simulate as closely as possible on your screen display what you'll get on output to the Postscript printer. Output to dot matrix printers through Preferences drivers works much the same way. Publishing Partner (they both come out "PP", don't they...) uses a different approach. It uses it's own custom outline fonts, for display (I think) and for output to dot matrix printers. That's exactly what Postscript engines do. As long as Publishing Partner knows the resolution of your output device, it can scale it's outline fonts accordingly, and thus give your the best possible output for that specific printer. To date, at least, Publishing Partner doesn't support color. So for dot matrix printing "tomorrow", Publishing Partner is a win. But you will have to wait. For Postscript in color, or today, ProPage wins. For monochrome output in Postscript, I expect either will work just fine. ProPage has a very nice on screen display and decent user interface. From what I've seen of the Amiga version of Publishing Partner, it's got a somewhat better user interface, and somewhat weaker screen display. All subjective, of course. -- Dave Haynie "The 32 Bit Guy" Commodore-Amiga "The Crew That Never Rests" {ihnp4|uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: D-DAVE H BIX: hazy "I can't relax, 'cause I'm a Boinger!"
daveh%cbmvax.uucp@UDEL.EDU (10/04/88)
Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X2.00) with BSMTP id 7529; Sat, 01 Oct 88 00:09:03 EDT Received: from UDEL.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Sat, 01 Oct 88 00:08:59 EDT Received: from Louie.UDEL.EDU by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa17280; 30 Sep 88 20:37 EDT Received: by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa17131; 30 Sep 88 20:25 EDT Received: from USENET by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa16690; 30 Sep 88 20:10 EDT From: Dave Haynie <daveh@cbmvax.uucp> Subject: Re: Publishing Partner Professional/ Professional Page Message-ID: <4904@cbmvax.UUCP> Date: 30 Sep 88 19:05:18 GMT Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA To: amiga-relay@UDEL.EDU Sender: amiga-relay-request@UDEL.EDU in article <4886@cbmvax.UUCP>, daveb@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Berezowski) says: > Keywords: Release date set > In article <1926@vu-vlsi.Villanova.EDU> cheung@vu-vlsi.Villanova.EDU (Wilson Cheung) writes: >>pressure from the Atari community. Therefore, I have decided to snatch up >>Gold Disks offer. ... > While I think that Gold Disk's Professional Page V1.1 is an > excellant produce I must point out one inaccuracy in your above statement. > The current dot matrix output from PP V1.1 does not match the PROPOSED > (important word here) output from Publising Partner due to the different > ways both programs get their data to the printer. If you need high power DTP today, or color DTP in the near future, and you have access to a Postscript printer, PP V1.1 is what you want. In fact, I just took advantage of the upgrade offer myself, having this nice Eicon Postscript printer sitting right next door. However, PP V1.1 isn't all that great for dot matrix printers, and it doesn't pretend to be. ProPage uses an internal working resolution, since obviously you need something for screen display. Appropriate Amiga fonts are used to simulate as closely as possible on your screen display what you'll get on output to the Postscript printer. Output to dot matrix printers through Preferences drivers works much the same way. Publishing Partner (they both come out "PP", don't they...) uses a different approach. It uses it's own custom outline fonts, for display (I think) and for output to dot matrix printers. That's exactly what Postscript engines do. As long as Publishing Partner knows the resolution of your output device, it can scale it's outline fonts accordingly, and thus give your the best possible output for that specific printer. To date, at least, Publishing Partner doesn't support color. So for dot matrix printing "tomorrow", Publishing Partner is a win. But you will have to wait. For Postscript in color, or today, ProPage wins. For monochrome output in Postscript, I expect either will work just fine. ProPage has a very nice on screen display and decent user interface. From what I've seen of the Amiga version of Publishing Partner, it's got a somewhat better user interface, and somewhat weaker screen display. All subjective, of course. -- Dave Haynie "The 32 Bit Guy" Commodore-Amiga "The Crew That Never Rests" {ihnp4|uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: D-DAVE H BIX: hazy "I can't relax, 'cause I'm a Boinger!"
perley%caesar.steinmetz@UDEL.EDU (10/04/88)
Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X2.00) with BSMTP id 7855; Sat, 01 Oct 88 01:02:31 EDT Received: from UDEL.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Sat, 01 Oct 88 01:02:29 EDT Received: from Louie.UDEL.EDU by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa18373; 30 Sep 88 22:00 EDT Received: by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa18354; 30 Sep 88 21:59 EDT Received: from USENET by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa18149; 30 Sep 88 21:39 EDT From: Donald P Perley <perley@caesar.steinmetz> Subject: Re: Publishing Partner Professional/ Professional Page Keywords: Release date set Message-ID: <12281@steinmetz.ge.com> Date: 30 Sep 88 21:17:31 GMT Organization: General Electric CRD, Schenectady, NY To: amiga-relay@UDEL.EDU Sender: amiga-relay-request@UDEL.EDU In article <1926@vu-vlsi.Villanova.EDU> cheung@vu-vlsi.Villanova.EDU (Wilson Cheung) writes: > > This offer does not require that you send in your >Page Setter disk, especially if you have already sent it to Soft Logik >for there special "upgrade" offer. The catch is that you have to act fast, >before Sept 31st. Does this mean that if the letter is postmarked September 31 you can or can't get the offer? :-) -don perley
pa1132%sdcc15.uucp@cunyvm.cuny.edu (10/04/88)
Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X2.00) with BSMTP id 6811; Tue, 04 Oct 88 00:35:52 EDT Received: from UDEL.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Tue, 04 Oct 88 00:35:49 EDT Received: from Louie.UDEL.EDU by Louie.UDEL.EDU id ab16479; 3 Oct 88 22:04 EDT Received: from USENET by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa16464; 3 Oct 88 22:02 EDT From: pa1132 <pa1132@sdcc15.uucp> Subject: Re: Publishing Partner Professional/ Professional Page Keywords: Publishing Partner Professional Message-ID: <585@sdcc15.UUCP> Date: 3 Oct 88 16:28:40 GMT Organization: University of California, San Diego To: amiga-relay@UDEL.EDU Sender: amiga-relay-request@UDEL.EDU What is the current status of the Amiga version of the Publishing Partner Prfessional? Is the working version released already?
daveh%cbmvax.uucp%UDEL.EDU@cunyvm.cuny.edu (10/04/88)
Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X2.00) with BSMTP id 7210; Tue, 04 Oct 88 01:11:39 EDT Received: from UDEL.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Tue, 04 Oct 88 01:11:34 EDT Received: from Louie.UDEL.EDU by Louie.UDEL.EDU id as10567; 3 Oct 88 18:19 EDT Received: from USENET by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa10516; 3 Oct 88 18:02 EDT From: daveh%cbmvax.uucp@UDEL.EDU Subject: Re: Publishing Partner Professional/ Professional Page Message-ID: <4399@louie.udel.EDU> Date: 3 Oct 88 22:02:32 GMT To: amiga-relay@UDEL.EDU Sender: amiga-relay-request@UDEL.EDU Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X2.00) with BSMTP id 7529; Sat, 01 Oct 88 00:09:03 EDT Received: from UDEL.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Sat, 01 Oct 88 00:08:59 EDT Received: from Louie.UDEL.EDU by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa17280; 30 Sep 88 20:37 EDT Received: by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa17131; 30 Sep 88 20:25 EDT Received: from USENET by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa16690; 30 Sep 88 20:10 EDT From: Dave Haynie <daveh@cbmvax.uucp> Subject: Re: Publishing Partner Professional/ Professional Page Message-ID: <4904@cbmvax.UUCP> Date: 30 Sep 88 19:05:18 GMT Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA To: amiga-relay@UDEL.EDU Sender: amiga-relay-request@UDEL.EDU in article <4886@cbmvax.UUCP>, daveb@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Berezowski) says: > Keywords: Release date set > In article <1926@vu-vlsi.Villanova.EDU> cheung@vu-vlsi.Villanova.EDU (Wilson Cheung) writes: >>pressure from the Atari community. Therefore, I have decided to snatch up >>Gold Disks offer. ... > While I think that Gold Disk's Professional Page V1.1 is an > excellant produce I must point out one inaccuracy in your above statement. > The current dot matrix output from PP V1.1 does not match the PROPOSED > (important word here) output from Publising Partner due to the different > ways both programs get their data to the printer. If you need high power DTP today, or color DTP in the near future, and you have access to a Postscript printer, PP V1.1 is what you want. In fact, I just took advantage of the upgrade offer myself, having this nice Eicon Postscript printer sitting right next door. However, PP V1.1 isn't all that great for dot matrix printers, and it doesn't pretend to be. ProPage uses an internal working resolution, since obviously you need something for screen display. Appropriate Amiga fonts are used to simulate as closely as possible on your screen display what you'll get on output to the Postscript printer. Output to dot matrix printers through Preferences drivers works much the same way. Publishing Partner (they both come out "PP", don't they...) uses a different approach. It uses it's own custom outline fonts, for display (I think) and for output to dot matrix printers. That's exactly what Postscript engines do. As long as Publishing Partner knows the resolution of your output device, it can scale it's outline fonts accordingly, and thus give your the best possible output for that specific printer. To date, at least, Publishing Partner doesn't support color. So for dot matrix printing "tomorrow", Publishing Partner is a win. But you will have to wait. For Postscript in color, or today, ProPage wins. For monochrome output in Postscript, I expect either will work just fine. ProPage has a very nice on screen display and decent user interface. From what I've seen of the Amiga version of Publishing Partner, it's got a somewhat better user interface, and somewhat weaker screen display. All subjective, of course. -- Dave Haynie "The 32 Bit Guy" Commodore-Amiga "The Crew That Never Rests" {ihnp4|uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: D-DAVE H BIX: hazy "I can't relax, 'cause I'm a Boinger!"