richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) (09/20/88)
Ever get one of those DAK catalogues ful of neat gizmoz ?
They used to have Quadram Quadjet color ink jet printers for $500
with a bunch of schlock IBM software. A good, but not terrific, deal.
I was in a DAK store today, and they no longer list the printer
in the catalogue, but they had one in the store for $149.
Maybe they have a few left over, I dont know. Try the phone.
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richard@gryphon.CTS.COM {backbone}!gryphon!richardjohnm@trsvax.UUCP (09/25/88)
This is going to sound suspiciously like a plug. It is not. The reason that it is not a plug is because my company doesn't even sell this printer any more. With that said: If you are looking for a cheap color printer see if you can pick up the old Tandy CGP220. It is an ink jet printer that uses two cartriges, one for black ink and one that contains Cyan, Magenta, and Yellow ink. In graphics mode it prints dots on a 1:1 (Yea!) aspect ratio with up to 640 dots across the page. Obviously you would have to dither or do Floyd Steinberg or something in order to get more colors out of it but I think it's a really neat printer. Here's why you might want one: 1) It should be very cheap IF (and that's a big if) you can find one. We're talking $100 or so. During the final closeouts of this one it was going for around $140 or so. 2) Tandy still sells both kinds of cartridges. 3) The color printing from this is considerably cheaper than say a Okidata 20. The Okidata will give you ~7 or 8 color pages from a ribbon but you have about 3 million characters worth of ink in each of the three colors in the color cartridge, the last time I checked they wanted ~$19 for the color cartridge and slightly less for the black (you need one of each for the printer to run). If this sounds like something you are interested in I wish you luck in finding one in your town. John Munsch Tandy didn't put me up to this. Most of the people working here have even forgotten the printer ever existed.
richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) (09/26/88)
[Tandy colour printer info deleted]
Didn't sound like a commercial to me. I've never heard of the thing. Is it
a Tandy engine, or a Canon clone, like the Quadram.
Care to comment on the ink colour quality ? Is red RED like the Tektronix,
orange like the HP and the Canon, or a tad on the cyan side like the Xerox ?
How about blue ? Is it greenish, purpleish, or BLUE ?
Can you still buy these things in Radio Shacks ?
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richard@gryphon.CTS.COM {backbone}!gryphon!richarddca@kesmai.COM (David C. Albrecht) (09/28/88)
> > Didn't sound like a commercial to me. I've never heard of the thing. Is it > a Tandy engine, or a Canon clone, like the Quadram. The cgp-220 is a canon-pj1080a clone. Even looks pretty much identical. > > Care to comment on the ink colour quality ? Is red RED like the Tektronix, > orange like the HP and the Canon, or a tad on the cyan side like the Xerox ? > > How about blue ? Is it greenish, purpleish, or BLUE ? Whatever the 1080a looks like, I expect the cgp-220 is identical. > > Can you still buy these things in Radio Shacks ? Been discontinued a long time. Unlikely. It does use a different ROM set so you need a cgp-220 driver. At one time I heard you could order a new 1080 ROM set from Canon and install it which might be a smart idea. I don't remember where I heard it so I can't give any more info. David Albrecht
ssd@sugar.uu.net (Scott Denham) (09/28/88)
In article <7291@gryphon.CTS.COM>, richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: > [Tandy colour printer info deleted] > > Didn't sound like a commercial to me. I've never heard of the thing. Is it > a Tandy engine, or a Canon clone, like the Quadram. > > Care to comment on the ink colour quality ? Is red RED like the Tektronix, > orange like the HP and the Canon, or a tad on the cyan side like the Xerox ? > > richard@gryphon.CTS.COM {backbone}!gryphon!richard My understanding is that it is in fact the Canon PJ-1080 (??) color ink jet with a Tandy label on it. This printer is also flogged by IBM as the hardcopy device for their 3179G/3192G color graphics terminals (or was until they discontinued it in June). I heard the Tandy was the same from someone trying to direct us to supplies for our now orphaned IBM's (which I got at the end of May :(.... As for the colors, they tend toward those of the HP PaintJet more than the Xerox ones. And aside from being Horrendously slow and fairly noisy (compared to the HP) it's not a bad graphics printer. An unsolicted word to the wise on these things..... when it comes to paper, all color inkjets are NOT created equal. We've tried crossing the IBM's paper with the HP's.... with results varying from poor (HP paper in IBM/Canon printer) to spectacularly bad (IBM paper in HP). Scott Denham Western Atlas International Houston Tx As I am kept completely in the dark with a steady supply of organic fertilizer, any opinions expressed could only be my own (or fertilizer).
johnm@trsvax.UUCP (10/02/88)
Taking the questions in order: >Didn't sound like a commercial to me. I've never heard of the thing. Is it >a Tandy engine, or a Canon clone, like the Quadram. Darned if I know, I've never seen another printer quite like it. It is very small and fairly quiet. It may just have been custom manufactured for us, I'll try to find out. >Care to comment on the ink colour quality ? Is red RED like the Tektronix, >orange like the HP and the Canon, or a tad on the cyan side like the Xerox ? The red is a tad orangish but the saturation on all the colors is what attracted me to it. That and the simplicity of interface (and the cost of printing on it :-). >How about blue ? Is it greenish, purpleish, or BLUE ? I'll check. My printer is at home right now. >Can you still buy these things in Radio Shacks ? Absolutely not. If you could I would never have mentioned them. Some people have this thing about Tandy equipment and anything that even sounded like it could have been a plug would have generated enough flames to melt my socks. For that reason I don't discuss anything that Tandy does (I'm sure that is why the Microsoft people on the net are so quiet also, it does no good to argue with people who have already made up their minds). >richard@gryphon.CTS.COM {backbone}!gryphon!richard John Munsch
blgardne@esunix.UUCP (Blaine Gardner) (10/03/88)
From article <7291@gryphon.CTS.COM>, by richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton): > [Tandy colour printer info deleted] > > Didn't sound like a commercial to me. I've never heard of the thing. Is it > a Tandy engine, or a Canon clone, like the Quadram. It's the Canon PJ-1080A with a different sticker on the front. There may be some difference in the ROM (as with the Quadram), but its the same basic printer, and the ink packs are interchangable. The same printer was also OEMed by IBM. The IBM version was the subject of a big closeout promotion in Computer Shopper last year for $200. This was at the same time that Radio Shack was closing out their version for $200 also. (Me? I bought a used Canon for about $50.) It seems that Canon dropped the PJ-1080A at just the wrong time, since the Amiga stirred up a market for cheap color printers. I've heard a rumor that they were putting it back into production, any truth there? I've also heard that someone was selling an improved ROM for the Canon that changed the horrible font it comes with into something usable. If anyone knows where to find this upgrade, please let me know. > Care to comment on the ink colour quality ? Is red RED like the Tektronix, > orange like the HP and the Canon, or a tad on the cyan side like the Xerox ? The colors aren't anything to get too excited over. Since it is the Canon under the skin, it shares the same purplish blue, and the orange reds. > How about blue ? Is it greenish, purpleish, or BLUE ? > > Can you still buy these things in Radio Shacks ? I don't think so, and the ink packs seem to be a special order item now. I've been told that only the Radio Shack Computer Centers can even order the ink packs. However, Radio Shack still seems to be the best source for them. My only interest here is improving the performance of a useful peripherial my Amiga owns. -- Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland 580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108 UUCP Addresses: {ucbvax,allegra,decvax}!decwrl!esunix!blgardne utah-cs!esunix!blgardne usna!esunix!blgardne "Nobody will ever need more than 64K." "Nobody needs multitasking on a PC."
blgardne%esunix.uucp@cunyvm.cuny.edu (10/04/88)
Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X2.00) with BSMTP id 7635; Tue, 04 Oct 88 02:39:00 EDT Received: from UDEL.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Tue, 04 Oct 88 02:38:56 EDT Received: from Louie.UDEL.EDU by Louie.UDEL.EDU id ac15008; 3 Oct 88 20:49 EDT Received: from USENET by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa14802; 3 Oct 88 20:39 EDT From: Blaine Gardner <blgardne@esunix.uucp> Subject: Re: Cheap colour printer Message-ID: <988@esunix.UUCP> Date: 2 Oct 88 20:47:13 GMT Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation To: amiga-relay@UDEL.EDU Sender: amiga-relay-request@UDEL.EDU From article <7291@gryphon.CTS.COM>, by richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton): > [Tandy colour printer info deleted] > > Didn't sound like a commercial to me. I've never heard of the thing. Is it > a Tandy engine, or a Canon clone, like the Quadram. It's the Canon PJ-1080A with a different sticker on the front. There may be some difference in the ROM (as with the Quadram), but its the same basic printer, and the ink packs are interchangable. The same printer was also OEMed by IBM. The IBM version was the subject of a big closeout promotion in Computer Shopper last year for $200. This was at the same time that Radio Shack was closing out their version for $200 also. (Me? I bought a used Canon for about $50.) It seems that Canon dropped the PJ-1080A at just the wrong time, since the Amiga stirred up a market for cheap color printers. I've heard a rumor that they were putting it back into production, any truth there? I've also heard that someone was selling an improved ROM for the Canon that changed the horrible font it comes with into something usable. If anyone knows where to find this upgrade, please let me know. > Care to comment on the ink colour quality ? Is red RED like the Tektronix, > orange like the HP and the Canon, or a tad on the cyan side like the Xerox ? The colors aren't anything to get too excited over. Since it is the Canon under the skin, it shares the same purplish blue, and the orange reds. > How about blue ? Is it greenish, purpleish, or BLUE ? > > Can you still buy these things in Radio Shacks ? I don't think so, and the ink packs seem to be a special order item now. I've been told that only the Radio Shack Computer Centers can even order the ink packs. However, Radio Shack still seems to be the best source for them. My only interest here is improving the performance of a useful peripherial my Amiga owns. -- Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland 580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108 UUCP Addresses: {ucbvax,allegra,decvax}!decwrl!esunix!blgardne utah-cs!esunix!blgardne usna!esunix!blgardne "Nobody will ever need more than 64K." "Nobody needs multitasking on a PC."
evans@shuksan.UUCP (Gary Evans) (10/05/88)
I would also like the location to get the newer roms for the Radio Shack Color printer CGP220. I could even use a hint as to what printer driver everyone's using. Thanks, Gary Evans PH. (206) 251-4638 uw-beaver|ssc-vax|shuksan|evans