richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) (09/25/88)
In article <927@mystefix.liu.se> mikhe@mystefix.liu.se (Mike Henry) writes: > > 2. I don't know of one Laserprinter (with or without PostScript) > that outputs hardcopies in COLOR. True enough. You can't buy one right now, but they do exist. I once talked to Brian Reid about them, in May: ``Yeah, I've seen them. They're very slow, about 3 minutes to image after you say SHOWPAGE. Also they're going to be very expensive. > $25K. There's a limited market for them - It's basically the vanity market. They can't do volume, so people will still use colour seps from a typesetter.'' > Also few copying machines > duplicate color print in color! OK other color printers > are improving their output quality, but I feel that a nice > and ordinary Draw program that outputs in Black and White > (so that you can run it through your Xerox copier and > actually DUPLICATE and DISTRIBUTE it) would do the trick. Well, we'll know in a couple of weeks. Gold Disk is supposed to be showing their draw program at Ami Expo here in L.A. -- I think you'll find there's less to me than meets the eye. richard@gryphon.CTS.COM {backbone}!gryphon!richard
vkr@osupyr.mast.ohio-state.edu (Vidhyanath K. Rao) (09/26/88)
In article <7267@gryphon.CTS.COM> richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: >In article <927@mystefix.liu.se> mikhe@mystefix.liu.se (Mike Henry) writes: >> 2. I don't know of one Laserprinter (with or without PostScript) >> that outputs hardcopies in COLOR. >True enough. You can't buy one right now, but they do exist. I thought that printers with resolution >= 300dpi (truely, not the funny specs on dot matrix printers) in color are available. I don't know if they are laser printers or thermal transfers or what. I believe that QMS makes one. BTW, if you have to ask how much one costs, you can't afford it.
jdm@gryphon.CTS.COM (John Mesiavech) (09/29/88)
For Reference Purposes: Tektronix makes a color 300DPI output device, their 4693D IS a 300DPI color output device. Costs about 12 grand though, and would need the (ecch) Mac-Too interface to get it to work with the AMiga. John -- 0-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> All disclaimers apply; I didn't write this <-=-=-=-=-=-0 | ----------------------|------------------- | | "I want a New Duck | John Mesiavech | | One that won't try to bite | net.soldier.of.fortune | | One that won't chew a hole in my socks | {backbone}!gryphon!jdm | | One that won't Quack all night" | Go Purdue! (by req) | | Weird Al Yankovic, "I Want a New Duck" | | 0-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-0
daveb@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Berezowski) (10/01/88)
In article <7371@gryphon.CTS.COM> jdm@gryphon.CTS.COM (John Mesiavech) writes: > > For Reference Purposes: > >Tektronix makes a color 300DPI output device, their 4693D IS a 300DPI color >output device. Costs about 12 grand though, and would need the >(ecch) Mac-Too interface to get it to work with the AMiga. > Actually the base unit cost $8000 not $12,000 (we have one here at cbm). As far as a driver goes, there is a V1.3 printer driver which has the odd name of 'Tektronix_4693D' :^)
jdm@gryphon.CTS.COM (John Mesiavech) (10/03/88)
In article <4900@cbmvax.UUCP> daveb@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Berezowski) writes: >In article <7371@gryphon.CTS.COM> jdm@gryphon.CTS.COM (John Mesiavech) writes: >> >> For Reference Purposes: >> >>Tektronix makes a color 300DPI output device, their 4693D IS a 300DPI color >>output device. Costs about 12 grand though, and would need the >>(ecch) Mac-Too interface to get it to work with the AMiga. >> > Actually the base unit cost $8000 not $12,000 (we have >one here at cbm). As far as a driver goes, there is a V1.3 >printer driver which has the odd name of 'Tektronix_4693D' :^) Dave; Points: 1) True, base lists for $8,999.95. You then need an interface and an additional 4MB RAM to print a full 8.5" x 11" page, bringing the total cost to $11,999,95 before tax. Remember, I work in a store where we SELL the things. 2) The Tek driver for WB 1.3 has serious problems (won't do subtle shades of either blue or green, output appears matted). We were a test site. The problem has been reported to both Tek and CBM. John -- 0-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> All disclaimers apply; I didn't write this <-=-=-=-=-=-0 | ----------------------|------------------- | | "I want a New Duck | John Mesiavech | | One that won't try to bite | net.soldier.of.fortune | | One that won't chew a hole in my socks | {backbone}!gryphon!jdm | | One that won't Quack all night" | Go Purdue! (by req) | | Weird Al Yankovic, "I Want a New Duck" | | 0-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-0
daveb%cbmvax.uucp@UDEL.EDU (10/04/88)
Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X2.00) with BSMTP id 3189; Fri, 30 Sep 88 17:15:51 EDT Received: from UDEL.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Fri, 30 Sep 88 17:15:45 EDT Received: from Louie.UDEL.EDU by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa12808; 30 Sep 88 15:23 EDT Received: from USENET by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa12647; 30 Sep 88 15:13 EDT From: Dave Berezowski <daveb@cbmvax.uucp> Subject: Re: Colour output technology, was(Re: Structured Graphics Standard) Keywords: Colro Lasers Tektronix Message-ID: <4900@cbmvax.UUCP> Date: 30 Sep 88 17:42:10 GMT Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA To: amiga-relay@UDEL.EDU Sender: amiga-relay-request@UDEL.EDU In article <7371@gryphon.CTS.COM> jdm@gryphon.CTS.COM (John Mesiavech) writes: > > For Reference Purposes: > >Tektronix makes a color 300DPI output device, their 4693D IS a 300DPI color >output device. Costs about 12 grand though, and would need the >(ecch) Mac-Too interface to get it to work with the AMiga. > Actually the base unit cost $8000 not $12,000 (we have one here at cbm). As far as a driver goes, there is a V1.3 printer driver which has the odd name of 'Tektronix_4693D' :^)
daveb%cbmvax.uucp%UDEL.EDU@cunyvm.cuny.edu (10/04/88)
Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X2.00) with BSMTP id 5382; Mon, 03 Oct 88 20:56:47 EDT Received: from UDEL.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Mon, 03 Oct 88 20:56:44 EDT Received: from Louie.UDEL.EDU by Louie.UDEL.EDU id ae10567; 3 Oct 88 18:08 EDT Received: from USENET by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa10147; 3 Oct 88 17:57 EDT From: daveb%cbmvax.uucp@UDEL.EDU Subject: Re: Colour output technology, was(Re: Structured Graphics Standard) Message-ID: <4384@louie.udel.EDU> Date: 3 Oct 88 21:56:19 GMT To: amiga-relay@UDEL.EDU Sender: amiga-relay-request@UDEL.EDU Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X2.00) with BSMTP id 3189; Fri, 30 Sep 88 17:15:51 EDT Received: from UDEL.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Fri, 30 Sep 88 17:15:45 EDT Received: from Louie.UDEL.EDU by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa12808; 30 Sep 88 15:23 EDT Received: from USENET by Louie.UDEL.EDU id aa12647; 30 Sep 88 15:13 EDT From: Dave Berezowski <daveb@cbmvax.uucp> Subject: Re: Colour output technology, was(Re: Structured Graphics Standard) Keywords: Colro Lasers Tektronix Message-ID: <4900@cbmvax.UUCP> Date: 30 Sep 88 17:42:10 GMT Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA To: amiga-relay@UDEL.EDU Sender: amiga-relay-request@UDEL.EDU In article <7371@gryphon.CTS.COM> jdm@gryphon.CTS.COM (John Mesiavech) writes: > > For Reference Purposes: > >Tektronix makes a color 300DPI output device, their 4693D IS a 300DPI color >output device. Costs about 12 grand though, and would need the >(ecch) Mac-Too interface to get it to work with the AMiga. > Actually the base unit cost $8000 not $12,000 (we have one here at cbm). As far as a driver goes, there is a V1.3 printer driver which has the odd name of 'Tektronix_4693D' :^)
daveb@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Berezowski) (10/06/88)
In article <7457@gryphon.CTS.COM> jdm@gryphon.CTS.COM (John Mesiavech) writes: > >Dave; > >Points: > >1) True, base lists for $8,999.95. You then need an interface and an > additional 4MB RAM to print a full 8.5" x 11" page, bringing the > total cost to $11,999,95 before tax. Remember, I work in a store > where we SELL the things. > Hmmm, Tektronix told me that the base was $8000.00 and that you only needed the extra memory (and cost) if you wanted to go to 4 users. But if you actually sell them then I guess you may be more up on the situation than I am. :^) >2) The Tek driver for WB 1.3 has serious problems (won't do subtle shades > of either blue or green, output appears matted). We were a test site. > The problem has been reported to both Tek and CBM. > Yes, the Tektronix_4693D is a very strange beast. It wants the SOURCE data sent to it not the usually pre-filtered stuff that I send to all other printers. It wants to do ALL the imaging itself which takes almost all of the control away from the driver. The only thing you can do with the driver is color correction (which may help your colors a bit). Tektronix has made a ROM change just recently which does improve the imaging (or so I've been told). You say that you are/were a test site for the printer and driver. That's strange, I never had an external Tektronix_4693D test site. Were you doing this thru Tektronix? Regards, D.B. PS. The latest driver (which Tektronix is playing with) now supports strip printing. This means that it now works with Professional Page, ProWrite, Shakespeare, Excellence, and DeluxePhotoLab (to name a few).