[comp.sys.amiga] Diskcopy to RAD: v1.3

lah@raybed2.UUCP (LANCE HOLMES) (10/21/88)

I have been experimenting with the new 1.3 workbench and having a 2000
with a micron board I also have tried using the Rad: setup as shown
in the manual.  I tried using the diskcopy as show:
                "sys:system/diskcopy df0: to rad:"
and found that it didn't work

I noticed that the manual doesn't really talk about diskcopy in the
section which talks about the programs located in the systems draw.

(guessing at the answer):

do I need the 1.3 kickstart rom in my 2000 in order for the diskcopy to
work.  Presently I use the readkwik routine which I think I will still 
prefer because I can save a little more than 880k on a disk.
I realize that autoboot won't work.

Also after reading some previous posted messages if you have a hard 
disk drive and have the 1.3 kickstart are you forced to choose between
autoboot of the hard drive or ffs. but not both.


Lance Holmes

papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (10/22/88)

In article <1231@raybed2.UUCP> lah@raybed2.UUCP (LANCE HOLMES) writes:
|I have been experimenting with the new 1.3 workbench and having a 2000
|with a micron board I also have tried using the Rad: setup as shown
|in the manual.  I tried using the diskcopy as show:
|                "sys:system/diskcopy df0: to rad:"
|and found that it didn't work

For diskcopy to work between df0: and rad: they must be of the same size, 
that is 880K.  The supplied mountlist has to be modified with:

Lowcyl = 0 ; Highcyl = 79

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peter@sugar.uu.net (Peter da Silva) (10/23/88)

In article <1231@raybed2.UUCP>, lah@raybed2.UUCP (LANCE HOLMES) writes:
> I have been experimenting with the new 1.3 workbench and having a 2000
> with a micron board I also have tried using the Rad: setup as shown
> in the manual.  I tried using the diskcopy as show:
>                 "sys:system/diskcopy df0: to rad:"
> and found that it didn't work

Well, you do have to increase the size of RAD: in your mountlist to 79
cylinders. (by the way, specifying a RAM disk in cylinders gives me a weird
sensation, as if I was using some sort of victorian technology as my main
memory)

> Also after reading some previous posted messages if you have a hard 
> disk drive and have the 1.3 kickstart are you forced to choose between
> autoboot of the hard drive or ffs. but not both.

No. You just have to have a SFS autoboot device somewhere. With a hard disk you
can either set up an autobooting RAD: or a SFS partition on your hard drive.

One odd thing I've noticed, I can't autoboot my RAD: in my 1000. It's obvious
why, though. No mystery... you need autoconfig RAM to do it.
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adam@cbmvax.UUCP (Adam Levin CATS) (10/24/88)

There are explicit directions on the bottom of page 5-5 and the top
of page 5-6 of the Enhancer Software manual to allow a DiskCopy to RAD:.
Basically, you must change RAD's HighCyl (in :devs/MountList) from 7 to 79.
Note that if you do this after mounting RAD:, you must turn your Amiga
off and then on (always wait 30 seconds between these two actions).

phils@tekigm2.TEK.COM (Philip E Staub) (10/25/88)

Sorry to post this, but you know the story: the mailer bounced it:


In article <1231@raybed2.UUCP> lah@raybed2.UUCP (LANCE HOLMES) writes:
>
>I have been experimenting with the new 1.3 workbench and having a 2000
>with a micron board I also have tried using the Rad: setup as shown
>in the manual.  I tried using the diskcopy as show:
>                "sys:system/diskcopy df0: to rad:"
>and found that it didn't work
>

Have you tried checking the MountList entry for RAD:, to ensure that it has
the same number of surfaces, cylinders and sectors as a 3.5" floppy? Also,
after you make any changes to the mountlist entry for RAD:, physically
*remove the power* from your Amiga, so that any RAD: that currently exists
will no longer be there. A simple warm reboot doesn't do it. I'm not sure,
but I doubt that RemRAD does either.

Using these methods, I have had no trouble getting diskcopy to work, without
1.3 kickstart.

>I noticed that the manual doesn't really talk about diskcopy in the
>section which talks about the programs located in the systems draw.
>
>(guessing at the answer):
>
>do I need the 1.3 kickstart rom in my 2000 in order for the diskcopy to
>work.  Presently I use the readkwik routine which I think I will still 
>prefer because I can save a little more than 880k on a disk.
>I realize that autoboot won't work.
>
>Also after reading some previous posted messages if you have a hard 
>disk drive and have the 1.3 kickstart are you forced to choose between
>autoboot of the hard drive or ffs. but not both.
>
Some experimenting I've done suggests that you *must* have at least one old
filesystem partition on the hard disk. I've tried it with only ffs, and it 
just locks up. 

>
>Lance Holmes


Good Luck,
Phil
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lphillips@lpami.van-bc.UUCP (Larry Phillips) (10/26/88)

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In <3688@tekigm2.TEK.COM>, phils@tekigm2.TEK.COM (Philip E Staub) writes:
> Some experimenting I've done suggests that you *must* have at least one old
> filesystem partition on the hard disk. I've tried it with only ffs, and it 
> just locks up. 

  It depends on the controller. Any controller mounted with the MOUNT
command can be all FFS. I have been running a Wedge that way ever since
getting	a beta FSS for testing with early Wedge software.

-larry

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mikes@lakesys.UUCP (Mike Shawaluk) (10/28/88)

In article <1231@raybed2.UUCP> lah@raybed2.UUCP (LANCE HOLMES) writes:
>
>I have been experimenting with the new 1.3 workbench and having a 2000
>with a micron board I also have tried using the Rad: setup as shown
>in the manual.  I tried using the diskcopy as show:
>                "sys:system/diskcopy df0: to rad:"
>and found that it didn't work
>...
>do I need the 1.3 kickstart rom in my 2000 in order for the diskcopy to
>work?
>...
>Lance Holmes

I have been able to DiskCopy from a floppy to RAD:, but the last system disk I
set up to do this was under 1.3 Gamma 3 or so.  Actually, it was a Three
Stooges boot disk (!).  Anyways, you are aware (I assume) that the RAD: mount
list information must specify it as an 80 track device.  Anyways, I've done
this on my A1000 with KickStart 1.2; I've even been able to get the
ramdrive.device to work _under_ 1.2 (AmigaDOS, that is), but since I just got
my 1.3 Enhancer today (hurray!), I'm going to re-try everything to make sure
it still works.  BTW, the DiskCopy really cranks (about 2 tracks/second)!

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phils@tekigm2.TEK.COM (Philip E Staub) (10/28/88)

In article <1930@van-bc.UUCP> lphillips@lpami.van-bc.UUCP (Larry Phillips) writes:
|In <3688@tekigm2.TEK.COM>, phils@tekigm2.TEK.COM (Philip E Staub) writes:
|> Some experimenting I've done suggests that you *must* have at least one old
|> filesystem partition on the hard disk. I've tried it with only ffs, and it 
|> just locks up. 
|
|  It depends on the controller. Any controller mounted with the MOUNT
|command can be all FFS. I have been running a Wedge that way ever since
|getting	a beta FSS for testing with early Wedge software.
|

Nope. Must be something else. I *am* using MOUNT. Also, it can't be because
of 1.2 ROMS. I tried 1.3, too, and it still locks. I guess I'll keep
looking.

Phil
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