billh@tekig4.TEK.COM (William Hansen) (11/05/88)
I was experimenting with rad: the other day and I decided to try to enlarge it to floppy size highcyl=79 to see if I could play RocketRanger with one disk in ram. I changed the mountlist, and cold rebooted. When the workbench came up, I entered the shell, and said mount rad:, I then tried to cd to it, and was told it wasn't there. I tried several experiments which lead me to conclude that the default rad: (highcyl=27) works, and that setting it to 79 doesn't. I am begining to wonder if rad: requires contiguous memory to operate. I have 1-1/2 meg distributed as 3 banks of 1/2 meg each. Mergemem says they can't be merged (There at $0meg $2meg and $Cmeg). Can anyone confirm if rad: needs contiguous memory? Or is there another explanation? Bill Hansen billh@teklim.LIM.TEK.COM
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (11/05/88)
In article <3387@tekig4.TEK.COM| billh@tekig4.TEK.COM (William Hansen) writes: |I was experimenting with rad: the other day and I decided to try to |enlarge it to floppy size highcyl=79 to see if I could play RocketRanger [stuff deleted] |which lead me to conclude that the default rad: (highcyl=27) works, and that |setting it to 79 doesn't. I have been running RAD: with 79 cyl for months with no problem. I know of lots of others as well. -- Marco Papa 'Doc' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
ruslan@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Robin C. LaPasha) (11/06/88)
In article <13260@oberon.USC.EDU>, papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes: > In article <3387@tekig4.TEK.COM| billh@tekig4.TEK.COM (William Hansen) writes: > |I was experimenting with rad: the other day and I decided to try to > |enlarge it to floppy size highcyl=79 to see if I could play RocketRanger > [stuff deleted] > |which lead me to conclude that the default rad: (highcyl=27) works, and that > |setting it to 79 doesn't. > > I have been running RAD: with 79 cyl for months with no problem. I know > of lots of others as well. > > -- Marco Papa 'Doc' > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu > "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= When we tried setting up a RAD:, we ran into a slight problem, ... We started with RAD: at 101 cylinders. It mounted ok, worked, but we wanted MORE!!... We altered the mountlist to 111 cylinders, rebooted, and - that 1.2 Meg got eaten. Gone. It wasn't in the system (well, not accessible.) So - tried again (after powering down, etc.), and the new setting worked. What SEEMS to work (better than powering down, anyway) is to run RemRAD: to kill off the old RAD: before you make a new one (not sure if you still have to re-boot, but...) Disclaimer: Our system has been flakey lately... just got done with some hardware hacking to try and settle it down, so maybe nothing normal was working. (Oh - our system is a 1000 with a 2 meg Starboard - and therefore (I think?) probably has a big chunk of contiguous memory. I'm just mentioning our troubles in case it's not a question of memory.) Robin LaPasha ruslan@ecsvax.uncecs.edu
billh@tekig4.TEK.COM (William Hansen) (11/08/88)
In article <13260@oberon.USC.EDU> papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes: >In article <3387@tekig4.TEK.COM| billh@tekig4.TEK.COM (William Hansen) writes: >[stuff deleted] >|which lead me to conclude that the default rad: (highcyl=27) works, and that >|setting it to 79 doesn't. >I have been running RAD: with 79 cyl for months with no problem. I know >of lots of others as well. >-- Marco Papa 'Doc' But Marco, what memory configuration do you have? I suspect the problem is that I have 3 unmergeable 1/2 meg blocks rather than a 1-1/2 meg one. Can you confirm or deny this suspicion? Refer to the original title of the posting. The only change I made was to change the highcyl value to 79, I made a fresh copy straight off my original 1.3 workbench. I changed only the highcyl value, and then cold rebooted. The resulting RAD: would not work, It would say it was mounted, but you couldn't access it. Bill Hansen billh@teklim.LIM.TEK.COM Bill Hansen billh@teklim.LIM.TEK.COM
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (11/08/88)
In article <3398@tekig4.TEK.COM> billh@tekig4.TEK.COM (William Hansen) writes: |In article <13260@oberon.USC.EDU| papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes: ||In article <3387@tekig4.TEK.COM| billh@tekig4.TEK.COM (William Hansen) writes: |||which lead me to conclude that the default rad: (highcyl=27) works, and that |||setting it to 79 doesn't. ||I have been running RAD: with 79 cyl for months with no problem. I know ||of lots of others as well. | |But Marco, what memory configuration do you have? I suspect the problem is |that I have 3 unmergeable 1/2 meg blocks rather than a 1-1/2 meg one. |I made a fresh copy straight off my original 1.3 workbench. I changed only |the highcyl value, and then cold rebooted. The resulting RAD: would not |work, It would say it was mounted, but you couldn't access it. I have a 512K A2000 + 2Meg on an ASDG 8MI. The 2 meg are contiguous. Did you try to format it, or diskcopy df0: to rad: (which is what I do in my startup sequence). -- Marco Papa 'Doc' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (11/18/88)
My personal reply bounced, so I am posting this, which might be of general
use. It shows how to diskcopy a workbench disk to RAD: at cold
boot, and how to avoid that at the next warm reboot.
This is the one I was using with 1.3 Omega (I don't do that anymore).
The code to check whether to diskcopy or not should be credited to
Carolyn Scheppner of Commodore. Note that during Diskcopy (or at
the end of it) a requester will briefly flash. It is OK.
-- Startup-Sequence:
c:run >NIL: c:Setpatch ;patch system
c:wait 3
c:echo "A500/A2000 Workbench disk. Release 1.3 Gamma version 34.4*N"
Sys:System/FastMemFirst ; move C00000 memory to last in list
failat 30
assign >NIL: rad:
if not warn
echo "Mounting RAD:"
mount rad:
if not exists rad:c
echo "Backing up df0: to rad:"
SYS:System/diskcopy <NIL: df0: to rad: name "RamWb"
endif
endif
rad:c/failat 10
rad:c/assign C: rad:c
cd c:
echo "Transferring control to RAD:"
assign SYS: rad:
assign S: rad:s
assign L: rad:l
assign LIBS: rad:libs
assign DEVS: rad:devs
assign FONTS: rad:fonts
resident c:resident pure
resident makedir pure
resident assign pure
BindDrivers
Addbuffers df0: 10
FF >NIL: -0 ; start FastFonts
MakeDir Ram:Env ; set up ENV: directory
Assign ENV: ram:Env
makedir ram:t
assign t: ram:t
Sys:System/SetMap usa1
path sys:utilities sys:system ram: rad: sys: s: add
cd ram:
failat 30
assign >NIL: dh0:
if warn
execute >NIL: dh0:s/hd-startup
endif
failat 10
LoadWb -debug
SetClock >NIL: load ;load system time from real time clock
stack 10000
resident c:run pure
resident c:Execute pure ; pre-load the Execute command
run >nil: clockptr
run >nil: execute s:rescom
resident CLI L:Shell-Seg SYSTEM pure ; activate Shell
mount newcon: ; mount the improved console handler
newshell
endcli > nil:
Enjoy.
-- Marco
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