eric@pyrps5 (Eric Bergan) (11/19/88)
I'm in the market for a new color monitor (rule out the Viking) for my Amiga. Most of what I do is graphics, some program development, games, etc. To be honest, right now all I probably need is another standard RGB monitor, but I want to plan ahead for the future, such as a flickerFixer or future video developments from CBM. So, what should I buy? If I buy a multisync monitor, what will that impact with my current setup? Will interlace be better/worse? Noninterlace? What will I need to support CBM's futures? In any case, what are good monitors (both standard and multisync)?
spierce@pnet01.cts.com (Stuart Pierce) (11/20/88)
Buy an NEC Multisync II or a Princeton Graphics Ultrasync. Interlace is
exactly the same as with a single-frequency monitor, but the dot pitch on
these monitors (.31 mm and .28 mm respectively) makes the Amiga display very
crisp. If you don't buy a multisync, you'll be out of luck when the next
generation of graphics chips arrive. The Seiko CM-1430 is supposed to be
very good (PC Week), but I haven't seen one myself.
Stuart PierceNETOPRHM@NCSUVM.BITNET (Hal Meeks) (11/22/88)
If you can't afford a multisync, the next choice would be a Sony KV1311CR (RGB analog/digital and composite, with tuner) or KV1310, the same without the tuner. I used to work at a place that sold Amigas, and difference between the Sony and the 1084 was immense. The Thomson RGB Analog is a little better than the 1084, also, besides being cheaper. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hal Meeks "I'm living in a condo, netoprhm@ncsuvm.bitnet with Henry Thoreau" hgm@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu --Reagan Years, Part II
lel@wuphys.UUCP (Lyle E. Levine) (12/01/88)
In article <47632@pyramid.pyramid.com> eric@pyrps5 (Eric Bergan) writes: > > I'm in the market for a new color monitor (rule out the Viking) >for my Amiga. Most of what I do is graphics, some program development, >games, etc. To be honest, right now all I probably need is another >standard RGB monitor, but I want to plan ahead for the future, >such as a flickerFixer or future video developments from CBM. > > So, what should I buy? If I buy a multisync monitor, what >will that impact with my current setup? Will interlace be better/worse? >Noninterlace? What will I need to support CBM's futures? In any case, >what are good monitors (both standard and multisync)? I'd strongly recommend a Multisync II. I use one here in the lab with an Amiga 2000 and I have one at home with a Flicker Fixer. The video looks much better than on the 1080, 2002, 1080, or Sony monitor/tv combo. To hook it up, just buy a cable from just about any mail order place or a local dealer. For best results, get a flicker fixer and build a little T-switch box to switch between FF video and standard video. It works GREAT! I have heard people say you can't use an NEC Multisync with interlace but I have done it with 3 multisyncs and 2 Amigas. Works fine. They also have this setup at one of the local dealers. I do know that improper cabling will confuse the multisync and cause it to miss behave in interlace mode but a properly made cable (available by mail order) works perfectly. Should cost under $20. ========== IBM is a Division of Sirius Cybernetics Corporation "their fundamental design flaws are completely hidden by their superficial design flaws." - "So Long And Thanks For All The Fish" Lyle Levine: Paths -> ihnp4!wuphys!lel Best way: (314)889-6379 uunet!wucs!wuphys!lel
blgardne@esunix.UUCP (Blaine Gardner) (12/03/88)
From article <584@wuphys.UUCP>, by lel@wuphys.UUCP (Lyle E. Levine): > I'd strongly recommend a Multisync II. I use one here in the lab with > an Amiga 2000 and I have one at home with a Flicker Fixer. The video > looks much better than on the 1080, 2002, 1080, or Sony monitor/tv I've got the Multisync I (I guess you'd call it), the original one made by NEC, the model number is something like JC-P1401 as I remember. I agree, the fine dot pitch really makes a world of difference. On the negative side: there is no useful width adjustment (that switch is a placebo :-), and the HV regulation is nearly non-existant (flipping the screen color from black to white causes a very noticable size increase in the picture). Still, the overall picture is great, and it's quite possible that the Multisync II has fixed these problems. > combo. To hook it up, just buy a cable from just about any mail > order place or a local dealer. For best results, get a flicker fixer > and build a little T-switch box to switch between FF video and ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Have you actually done this? I've been toying with the idea, but also wondering if running video through a switchbox mess would degrade the image quality. The motion breakup doesn't bother me much on most software, but there are a few games (especially Emerald Mine) that really suffer from it. If it's really as easy as hooking up a DB-9 switchbox, I'll do it in a second! > standard video. It works GREAT! I have heard people say you can't > use an NEC Multisync with interlace but I have done it with > 3 multisyncs and 2 Amigas. Works fine. They also have this setup > at one of the local dealers. > I do know that improper cabling will confuse the multisync > and cause it to miss behave in interlace mode but a properly made > cable (available by mail order) works perfectly. Should cost > under $20. I've been one person grousing about the Multisync not working in interlace, but again, this is the original model, now discontinued. It's not a cabling problem, I tried every combination of sync signals with no effect at all. It looks like NEC corrected their error in the new design. I would definitly recommend a multi-sync/scan/etc monitor to anyone that is even toying with the idea of buying a flickerFixer. If you're planning to just use the non-interlace mode in the unavailable Enhanced Chip Set, I'd also suggest that you buy a multi-frequency monitor from NEC, Sony, or another known name instead of buying Commodore's announced multisync monitor. The Amigas are great, but the Commodore monitors leave a LOT to be desired. On the flickerFixer, I don't think I can really say it was worth the $450 or so I paid for it. I think it's worth about $250-350, but not $450-600. On the other hand, the image is beautiful, and I love having a usable 704x470 Workbench screen. And you'd never get me to give it up and go back to flicker and 200 line screens, so maybe it IS worth the money after all. :-) The only _real_ problem I've found with the flickerFixer is that I now use a lot of 400 line screens, so I burn up a lot of chip RAM. I _NEED_ a 1 meg Agnus badly! (Trivia: Did you know that if you don't have enough Chip RAM to display a picture "Display" reports that the picture is not an ILBM? Strange and confusing error message!) -- Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland 580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108 Here: utah-cs!esunix!blgardne {ucbvax,allegra,decvax}!decwrl!esunix!blgardne There: uunet!iconsys!caeco!pedro!worsel!blaine (under construction) "Nobody will ever need more than 64K." "Nobody needs multitasking on a PC."