bspgru09@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Betriebssystem-Praktikum) (12/09/88)
SUBJECT: C= RIP-OFFs in Europe, Re: Support from CBM in The Netherlands ]-( A TALE HOW TO MAKE FAST MONEY BY SELLING BANANAS A TALE ABOUT THOSE WHO BOUGHT TOO SOON & ARE NOW REALLY HAPPY ABOUT IT -- HEAVY FLAME ON --- >In article <71585@neabbs.UUCP> amichel@neabbs.UUCP (MICHEL LANGEREIS) writes: >: This flame is not supposed to offend anybody except those people >: who represent C= - Amiga in The Netherlands >It's the same problem here in Germany. They are selling enough C64/128 and >PC's so why should they care about the Amiga. Have a look in any of the >German Amiga Magazines, most Articles and Answers to Questions are just >stupid ! And C= Germany doesn't care ! >So I don't wonder that Atari is leading here :-( Perfectly True, B U T , ATARI's Support is equal to Commodores (=none, zero) >Maybe someday they (C= Germany) will learn their lesson, as C= (US) already >has. But that's just a dream. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Some C= Users here have learned their lesson: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bought the A1000 for 3000$, half a year later it was 2000$ then 1500$ now 800$. ($ as 2 Marks). A lesson worth to learn! They paid the developments costs & bought the trouble. Of course the freaks had their fun, but that's the only group beside graphix- gurus, who had. C= said: 'a ye people there it is the real professional multitasking demon, the A1000, it's reallllllllll professional' yeah professional - A real professional file-system it was at release 1.1. Now 1.3 is there, it is now as fast as MS-DOS ? NO of course not , they changed almost nothing. a few caching thats all. ( I mention the standard configuration 512kB 2 drives, thats what the majority has here) -> real professional - Even at 1.3 i can format 3.5" disks without error, a disks which is rejected from MS-DOS format with a bunch of errors. -> real professional - And then those A2000A Users, who bought the 'expandablest machine in all times' , ye now they even can't switch to UNIX ->real professional - GURUS GURUS GURUS , No wonder those users went out & connected a sidecar, thats the part of the amiga they are using most. (;-( ) - And then the story about the 'professional DTP on Amy' - The story about the AT-Card which is now there and costs as much as a clone. ( & runs at 8 Mhz real fast, real professional) - (a jump) ah there's an ARCHIMEDES there A DREAM MACHINE just another on the grave of dead computers (QL,SPECTRUM,ACORN.....) . . CONCLUSION: ~~~~~~~~~~~ !! The first models of a machine are a real rip-off never buy that stuff !!! !! TOO EXPENSIVE, TOO BUGGY!!! ( An A500 is now a good buy, cause it's cheap there's better software,etc.) !! If they announce something, be sure it never appears. ( I remember that 1st Amiga-BYTE Article with the list of software for amy, including turbo-pascal) I am a freak , i like the amiga, but telling those 'amiga is professional'- story's to users, who don't want to spend time, trouble, money is a RIP-OFF C=!! I know some who said' let's try something other than ibm, give it a chance. Half a year later they sold their amy or have bought a sidecar. ( They 've learned the lesson) So thats what i'm actual doing with my amy: - BBS-ing, VT100-Emulation - Game playing - Text work with Word-Perfect (the only professional program on Amy) Well if i want to do something professional be sure,i'll take an IBM-Clone. ( Is cheaper than any amiga-expansion ) & NEXT TIME i'll be ready, when they announce the A5000 in a few years, the computer who can sing, make squaredance or whatsoever, and tell those sweet lies, my ears will be deaf. ~~~~~ ( REMARK: THE ABOVE COMMENTS ARE ONLY VALID FOR C= Europe, !NOT! FOR C= USA.) ~~~~~ C= PRICE POLICY IN FRG AT THE BEGINNING WAS EXTREME C= SUPPORT POLICY FOR A2000A Users is NOW EXTREME ('buy a 2000B, user!') WHAT EXTREME THINGS ARE TO COME ??? SO C= WHAT ABOUT FAIRNESS TO USERS ??? TO SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS ??? ( THEY HAD ENORMOUS DIFFICULTIES AT THE BEGINNING,I BET !) --- HEAVY FLAME OFF --- & now the positive things about amy: ~~~~~~~~ - the real good Public-Domain Software ( Without Matt Dillions Shell & VT100,i'd have sold my Amy ) - the >spirit< of the amiga-scene - the real good games ( Interceptor, Jet, Marble Madness, Star-glider II) * BYE & LET'S HOPE THE SUPPORT WILL GET BETTER , some time , some day *
peter@sugar.uu.net (Peter da Silva) (12/11/88)
In article <443@infovax.lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>, bspgru09@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Betriebssystem-Praktikum) writes: > Bought the A1000 for 3000$, half a year later it was 2000$ then > 1500$ now 800$. ($ as 2 Marks). A lesson worth to learn! I presume you've never bought a new car. When you drive it off the lot you can kiss about 20% of the purchase price goodbye. Cars, computers, and other consumer goods are not investments. A lesson worth learning. -- Peter da Silva `-_-' peter@sugar.uu.net Have you hugged U your wolf today? Disclaimer: My typos are my own damn busines#!rne