[comp.sys.amiga] Disk drive gronks

armhold@topaz.rutgers.edu (George Armhold) (01/03/89)

Does anyone know why sometimes when booting up, the system seems to
have some kind of problem with the disk drive? What I mean is when
loading Workbench, the drive knocks 3 or 4 times for every time that
it should knock only once. This causes it to take about 4-5 times longer to
boot up. Then disk activity is usually screwed up for the entire
session- it's especially evident when opening disks from the
Workbench ("gronk gronk gronk gronk etc..." instead of "gronk gronk
- window's open"). At first I thought this was due my not using disk
labels that cover the seam on the top of the disk (some disks seem to
open a little bit at the top seam, the labels hold it closed), but now
sometimes disks WITH labels have this problem. This problem only
happens every once in a while- sometimes rebooting kills the problem,
sometimes not. I thought I had licked the problem until I tried using
 "Better Dead than Alien" (QuickNibble won't copy it so I have to use
my original:-( ) This original came with one of those labels that only
covers the front of the disk- it doesn't cover the seam. I was 
too angry to play the game after waiting forever to load it (gronk
gronk gronk etc...) so I loaded up workbench- and it too had the
problem(my workbench DOES have a good label on it.) Only after 3
reboots did it stop. If it's really the label thats causing the
problem, can anybody tell me why? Has anyone else had this problem???

-GEA

PS: Better Dead than Alien has always worked fine for me until today.

jesup@cbmvax.UUCP (Randell Jesup) (01/04/89)

In article <Jan.2.16.31.07.1989.13736@topaz.rutgers.edu> armhold@topaz.rutgers.edu (George Armhold) writes:
>Does anyone know why sometimes when booting up, the system seems to
>have some kind of problem with the disk drive? What I mean is when
>loading Workbench, the drive knocks 3 or 4 times for every time that
>it should knock only once. This causes it to take about 4-5 times longer to
>boot up. Then disk activity is usually screwed up for the entire
>session- it's especially evident when opening disks from the
>Workbench ("gronk gronk gronk gronk etc..." instead of "gronk gronk
>- window's open").

	I suspect marginal disks, or disks which have some 'float'.  It sounds
like it's retrying every read.  Buy a few "good" disks (non-supercheap),
and see if it happens to them.  Try removing and reinserting the disk
(if it's a centering problem).

	Also, it might be a dirty or misaligned drive.  When was the last time
you cleaned your heads?

	Last idea (but would only affect startup): the drive may be validating,
which will cause disk thrash.  If you ^D out immediately, and the drive
continues running (after giving you the prompt) then it's validating.  Make sure
there is at least 1 free block on the drive (and write-enabled) or it won't
write out the new root/bitmap.

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Randell Jesup, Commodore Engineering {uunet|rutgers|allegra}!cbmvax!jesup