denbeste@bbn.com (Steven Den Beste) (01/01/89)
I just got through downloading "RGB" from the binaries group, and there are three big warnings, which I'll give to you in rising order of importance: Warning 1: The first disk must be named "ArteMatica #3" and the second disk must be named "ArteMatica #3.1". These volume names are buried in the animation - there is no simple place you can change them. (Of course, you could do an assign, but why bother?) Warning 2: Don't bother downloading RGB if you have less than 2.5 megabytes of RAM. It won't run with less. (If you have 2.5 MB and a HD, you'll have to build standalone disks as described above which don't mount the harddrive. Otherwise you will run out of chip RAM.) Warning 3: Don't bother downloading RGB unless you have a PAL Amiga. Yep, that's right, buckaroos, all you Amigoids here in the States are shit out of luck. Our Italian friends won't be getting any ten dollar bills in the mail from here. (The Germans and Danes have the choice of sending either $10 or 10,000 Lira... yep, it's shareware.) Rats. What I could see of it looked mighty fine, too. Our Italian friends seem to have been justly proud of what they've done. Steven C. Den Beste, BBN Communications Corp., Cambridge MA denbeste@bbn.com(ARPA/CSNET/UUCP) harvard!bbn.com!denbeste(UUCP)
scotth@harlie.SGI.COM (Scott Henry) (01/02/89)
From article <33990@bbn.COM>, by denbeste@bbn.com (Steven Den Beste): > > I just got through downloading "RGB" from the binaries group, and there are > three big warnings, which I'll give to you in rising order of importance: > > Rats. What I could see of it looked mighty fine, too. Our Italian friends seem > to have been justly proud of what they've done. > > Steven C. Den Beste, BBN Communications Corp., Cambridge MA > denbeste@bbn.com(ARPA/CSNET/UUCP) harvard!bbn.com!denbeste(UUCP) Rats! and I spent all that effort bringing it down and setting it up! BTW, do the same "Gotchas" go for MoebiuS, also, since its from the same Italian group? ie: PAL only, undocumented disk label and all (just 1.5MB instead of 2.5MB)? I guess, our comp.{source,binaries}.amiga moderator needs to check out animations somewhat more thoroughly than other binaries... :-). Or at least post a warning in clear about the poosible requirement of a PAL Amiga for these animations. Scott Henry <scotth@sgi.com> PS: did you note the incredibly useful error-messages you get from the player? -- Scott Henry
wbt@cbnews.ATT.COM (William B. Thacker) (01/03/89)
In article <24163@sgi.SGI.COM> scotth@harlie.SGI.COM (Scott Henry) writes: > >Rats! and I spent all that effort bringing it down and setting it up! >BTW, do the same "Gotchas" go for MoebiuS, also, since its from the same >Italian group? ie: PAL only, undocumented disk label and all (just 1.5MB >instead of 2.5MB)? Apparently. The MoebiuS disk must be labeled "Artematica #2". I couldn't get anything from CLI, so I loaded workbench and double-clicked the MoebiuS icon; about 45 secs of disk activity, then a clean exit. This after nearly two hours of downloading. Oh, well, I got in several good games of Tetrix and Tiles 8-) >I guess, our comp.{source,binaries}.amiga moderator needs to check out >animations somewhat more thoroughly than other binaries... :-). Or at least >post a warning in clear about the poosible requirement of a PAL Amiga for >these animations. Rather. Compliments to Bob for getting out an incredible number of binaries (heck, I thought our newsfiles were corrupt when I saw over 60 postings in c.b.amiga 8-), but perhaps he's shaved a few too many corners ? ------------------------------ valuable coupon ------------------------------- Bill Thacker att!cbnews!wbt "C" combines the power of assembly language with the flexibility of assembly language. Disclaimer: Farg 'em if they can't take a joke ! ------------------------------- clip and save --------------------------------
vinsci@abo.fi (Leonard Norrgard) (01/04/89)
In article <33990@bbn.COM>, denbeste@bbn.com (Steven Den Beste) writes: > I just got through downloading "RGB" from the binaries group, and there are [...] > Rats. What I could see of it looked mighty fine, too. Our Italian friends seem > to have been justly proud of what they've done. *** Flame on *** So now you all know how anyone outside the states feels when some ignorant [US] programmer has hardcoded a keymap (there are lots of those, both keymaps & ignorant programmers, it seems), or tried to do their own semi-intelligent keymapping. *** Flame off *** Bryce Nesbitt, BTW, has written an example (nov 1987) on how to correctly decode the keyboard, using DeadKeyConvert() from the Amiga 1.2 Enhancer manual, pp 65,66. Have a look at the code, if you haven't already. It makes sense. -- Leonard Norrgard, vinsci@abo.fi, vinsci@finabo.bitnet, +358-21-654474, EET.
donw@zehntel.zehntel.com (Don White) (01/11/89)
In article <1286@abo.fi> vinsci@abo.fi (Leonard Norrgard) writes: > So now you all know how anyone outside the states feels when some ignorant >[US] programmer has hardcoded a keymap (there are lots of those, both keymaps & > >*** Flame off *** >Leonard Norrgard, vinsci@abo.fi, vinsci@finabo.bitnet, +358-21-654474, EET. Leonard! Both countries have this problem. EVERY game I have used which came from Europe has had compatability problems. (4 or 5 games) The main problem I see is that European Programmers don't account for the smaller screen allowed on US Amigas. European programs crash frequently on my 1000. Sprites usually turn to garbage after a short time of playing. I am frustrated because many European games would be very good, if they worked. So, all flames aside, how do we educate the amiga community? (world) Maybe we can compile a concise list of programming requirements between US and European machines. Two Items which clearly must be addressed - Allow for all keymaps Detect system type and adjust for screen size Also, get someone to try your program out on the kind of system you DON'T have. It would be nice to cut down on flames and increase the usefulness of this net. Don White zehntel!donw PO BOX 271177 Concord, CA. 94527-1177 (* Hope this helps! *)