dsking@pyr.gatech.EDU ( David King) (01/14/89)
In article <51@sdcc10.ucsd.EDU> cs161agc@sdcc10.ucsd.edu.UUCP (John Schultz) writes: >"Upgrade?". Picture Sam Kinison screaming at the top of his lungs: >"I programmed with TDI M2 for two years!!! It was HELL mister, >HELL!!! It was worse than being married for two years!!! I WAS A >VICTIM, A VICTIM!!! >OH! OH! OH! OHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! UPGRADE? AHHH HA HA HA HA HA HA... Actually, as far as I can tell from talking with the designers on BIX and examining the demo disk, it is an upgrade for two reasons: 1) they are offering it cheap to old TDI owners, and 2) they are probably using TDI's AmigaDOS distribution liscense. The editor, compiler, and linker are all totally rewriten, Amiga-fied, and bug free (I have not found a way to crash the demo which is unusual for me). If you got a demo disk with the upgrade atleast take a look at it - it really is a new product. If not, I think that I can send you the zoo'ed demo. DISCLAIMER: I do not work for M2S. In fact, I am an owner of ITC's M2Amiga who is thinking about switching if M2Amiga's update (RSN) doesn't match M2S. Any spelling errors I blamed on society for making me too lazy to hunt for my dictionary :-). > > John Schultz -- David King Georgia Insitute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!gitpyr!dsking ARPA: dsking@pyr.gatech.edu
cs161agc@sdcc10.ucsd.EDU (John Schultz) (01/15/89)
In article <7063@pyr.gatech.EDU> dsking@pyr.UUCP ( David King) writes: [Kinison Code Removed] > Actually, as far as I can tell from talking with the designers on >BIX and examining the demo disk, it is an upgrade for two reasons: 1) they >are offering it cheap to old TDI owners, and 2) they are probably using >TDI's AmigaDOS distribution liscense. The editor, compiler, and linker are >all totally rewriten, Amiga-fied, and bug free (I have not found a way to >crash the demo which is unusual for me). If you got a demo disk with the >upgrade atleast take a look at it - it really is a new product. If not, Hey, I looked at the demo disk. I can't help from laughing as I type this, but I got it to hang the first time I booted it up on an Amiga 2000. I got tired of looking at the cyclic ray-trace demo, and started pressing keys. Then I waited. And waited. And waited. Ad infinitonauseam. The second time I ran it, I just waited, and after a while, I got to the demo of the compiler. The editor/compiler/linker doesn't seem as well intergated as Benchmark, it doesn't seem any faster; I wasn't impressed. I've been using Benchmark for about a year, a Beta version I might add (I'll recieve the upgrade "Jan 20" or so), I haven't encountered a single bug. I've talked to the Author, Leon Frenkel; all of my questions were answered impeccably. M2S will perform direct library calls and alledgely does dead code elimination. So, it may be that at this time it is marginally better than Benchmark in code generation, but I'm not impressed enough to switch over, giving their previous track record. And if the authors are still in Europe, it'll have to be _really_ impressive to buy it. Currently if you want a stable, fast environment, Benchmark has the best track record. If you want the best code generation, Lattice 5.0 seems to win here, but I'm sure Manx will counter. If you want the ultimate speed, pick you're favorite assembler and go. John Schultz