[comp.sys.amiga] AmigaSpice source code???

11TSTARK@GALLUA.BITNET (Timothy Stark) (01/12/89)

Hello,

   Thanks for many notes which you sent me. He mailed me a copy of ASpice
package the last minute. I now have an Aspice. I now am looking for ASpice
source code. Is its source code avaliable for Amiga systems? At FTP? Etc..
Why does the most developers not want hand to anyone their source codes
personally?? I do not agree that! Without source code, it may be bigger
and bigger problems with new OS releases. :( With source code, if new
OS release come, I can re-compile them quickly without waiting for next
new release for new OS release.

-- Tim Stark

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rap@ardent.UUCP (Rob Peck) (01/13/89)

In article <8901120052.AA26145@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, 11TSTARK@GALLUA.BITNET (Timothy Stark) writes:
> Without source code, it may be bigger
> and bigger problems with new OS releases. :( With source code, if new
> OS release come, I can re-compile them quickly without waiting for next
> new release for new OS release.

But, Tim, when folks follow the rules that the OS folks have estabished,
and used "standard" system functions, the OS folks USUALLY manage to
establish backward compatibility with previous software with no need
to recompile anything.  So your "OLD" software should, if rules were
followed, run under the new OS.

"NEW" software, on the other hand, is usually free to use new services 
provided by the new OS, and has the right to specify (or perhaps lets 
say demand) that the user acquire the new OS in order to run in the 
first place.  Of course, the smart developer makes sure that his software 
is backwards compatible with what is most likely to be the most widely
distributed version of the "old" OS software and only use the new calls 
if the program can detect that it is indeed running under the new OS.
So even if you have a NEW OS, you may still have the OLD source code
(since you feel you are not willing to wait), so YOU have to fix the
problems, and not the developer... so it won't be a quick recompile
after all.

SO, if the rules are followed, most of the time (other than to learn
from or to have a warm fuzzy feeling) there is no need to have the
source code in the first place.  If you trust the developer and like
what he has done, you probably don't need the source.

Rob Peck

billsey@agora.UUCP (Bill Seymour) (01/14/89)

From article <8901120052.AA26145@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU:, by 11TSTARK@GALLUA.BITNET (Timothy Stark):
: Hello,
: 
:    Thanks for many notes which you sent me. He mailed me a copy of ASpice
: package the last minute. I now have an Aspice. I now am looking for ASpice
: source code. Is its source code avaliable for Amiga systems? At FTP? Etc..
: Why does the most developers not want hand to anyone their source codes
: personally?? I do not agree that! Without source code, it may be bigger
: and bigger problems with new OS releases. :( With source code, if new
: OS release come, I can re-compile them quickly without waiting for next
: new release for new OS release.

	I would really like to see the source for this also... Not so much
because of anything I could do to it, but because I want to let it use my
68881. Larry Gutkowski has indicated he'll recompile it for me with the '881
hooks, but we need the source for that. I understand the source is *very* 
large, but perhaps something could be worked out on floppy...

: 
: -- Tim Stark
: 
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jdow@gryphon.COM (J. Dow) (01/15/89)

In article <1329@agora.UUCP> billsey@agora.UUCP (Bill Seymour) writes:
>From article <8901120052.AA26145@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU:, by 11TSTARK@GALLUA.BITNET (Timothy Stark):
>: Hello,
>: 
>:    Thanks for many notes which you sent me. He mailed me a copy of ASpice
>: package the last minute. I now have an Aspice. I now am looking for ASpice
>: source code. Is its source code avaliable for Amiga systems? At FTP? Etc..
>
>	I would really like to see the source for this also... Not so much
>because of anything I could do to it, but because I want to let it use my
>68881. Larry Gutkowski has indicated he'll recompile it for me with the '881
>hooks, but we need the source for that. I understand the source is *very* 
>large, but perhaps something could be worked out on floppy...
>
>: 
>: -- Tim Stark
>     -Bill Seymour             ...tektronix!reed!percival!agora!billsey
Er, please add me to that list. In fact I'd dearly love to get a copy of 
ASpice if someone can tell me who and how.

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					stink. Maybe the maiden should suicide?
					Better yet - she should get an Amiga and
					quit playing with dragons and knights.