Tom Claydon: ASTLC@alaska.bitnet;, (01/01/89)
OK, I know you can't believe everything you read, but.... In Issue 1.3 of AMIGOTIMES, there is an article on pgs. 22-25 called "Amiga 3000 -- Unveiled". Although there is a notice at the beginning of the article explaining that the article is based on personal wishes of the author and speculation, there is an interesting item on the top of page 24: "WORKBENCH 2.0" "The Workbench screen has been set to a resolution of 1000x800 with 5 bit- planes, giving 32 available colors from a palette of 16 million......" "The new, enhanced CLI includes a vertical proportional gadget which lets you move backwards to view previously scrolled lines." The screen-shot(?) also shows a GREAT feature -- PaintPad 2.0. An IFF picture available in a re-sizeable window! I ask -- FACT OR FICTION? ------------------------ Tom Claydon
richard@gryphon.COM (Richard Sexton) (01/01/89)
Amazing. An article from mmdf@louie.udel that wasn't a repeat. In article <6183@louie.udel.EDU> Tom Claydon: ASTLC@alaska.bitnet;, writes: > > In Issue 1.3 of AMIGOTIMES, there is an article on pgs. 22-25 called >"Amiga 3000 -- Unveiled". Although there is a notice at the beginning of the >article explaining that the article is based on personal wishes of the author >and speculation, there is an interesting item on the top of page 24: > > "WORKBENCH 2.0" > > "The Workbench screen has been set to a resolution of 1000x800 with 5 bit- >planes, giving 32 available colors from a palette of 16 million......" > > "The new, enhanced CLI includes a vertical proportional gadget which lets >you move backwards to view previously scrolled lines." > > The screen-shot(?) also shows a GREAT feature -- PaintPad 2.0. An IFF >picture available in a re-sizeable window! > > I ask -- FACT OR FICTION? Like the article said. A bit of both. I can outdo that rumour though. I've heard there are 5 amigas in the world with 40 Mhz 68030's and 32 megabytes of 32 bit ram. I didn't know those things ran at 40 Mhz, or are they grade outs from the 33 Mhz parts bin ? -- I got a lump of coal. richard@gryphon.COM {b'bone}!gryphon!richard gryphon!richard@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (01/02/89)
In article <6183@louie.udel.EDU> Tom Claydon: ASTLC@alaska.bitnet;, writes: | OK, I know you can't believe everything you read, but.... | | In Issue 1.3 of AMIGOTIMES, there is an article on pgs. 22-25 called |"Amiga 3000 -- Unveiled". Although there is a notice at the beginning of the |article explaining that the article is based on personal wishes of the author |and speculation, there is an interesting item on the top of page 24: | | "WORKBENCH 2.0" It's BOGUS. How long do you think it takes to "NewZAP" Workbench 1.3 to say Workbench 2.0? Let's forget about the A3000. Buy an A2000 with an '020 and you'll be better off TODAY. All these articles are pure conjecture at this point. -- Marco Papa 'Doc' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
rodney@pyr.gatech.EDU (Rodney Ricks) (01/03/89)
In article <14406@oberon.USC.EDU> papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes: >In article <6183@louie.udel.EDU> Tom Claydon: ASTLC@alaska.bitnet;, writes: >| OK, I know you can't believe everything you read, but.... > > ... > >Let's forget about the A3000. Buy an A2000 with an '020 and you'll be better >off TODAY. All these articles are pure conjecture at this point. Ok, here's something about the 2000 with '020 that isn't pure conjecture, but to convince people to go ahead and get a 68020 system, instead of holding out for a 3000. The following comes from INFO magazine (#24 Jan/Feb 1988), and is taken without permission (of course). p. 81; INFO Visits Commodore ... assembly lines at the end of the building were putting together A2620 14.3 MHz 68020 Amiga coprocessor boards ... comes with 2 megs of 32-bit RAM, with room on board for 4 ... can add a daughterboard for a total of 20 megs of 32-bit RAM ... Hmmm, 20 megabytes, THAT ought to be enough!!! For awhile, at least... (I think I remember hearing the above as a rumor on the net, but the article seems to give it more factual support.) What's that? You say that 14.3 Mhz won't satisfy you? How about this, from a Comdex show report (p.38). According to Dr. Rubin ... there is no A3000. ... running at 14.3 MHz ... the 2500 can be upgraded to run at a blistering 25 MHz. Now we'll be able to laugh at our Mac friends! Whoops, sorry, I don't want to start any more "my computer is better than yours" wars. Besides, each side knows which computer is best! :-) (Theirs, of course.) Seriously, when will we be able to see some benchmarks for these 25 MHz, 68020 systems? Wouldn't it be funny if they (consistently) outpaced the NeXT workstations? (It may be feasible under AmigaDOS, since there should be MUCH less overhead...) > >-- Marco Papa 'Doc' Rodney Ricks UUCP: ...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!gitpyr!rodney or : !gatech!auc!rar Mail: 4265 Hidden Valley Dr. College Park, Ga. 30349
daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) (01/04/89)
in article <10191@gryphon.COM>, richard@gryphon.COM (Richard Sexton) says: > Summary: BS > I can outdo that rumour though. I've heard there are 5 amigas in the world > with 40 Mhz 68030's and 32 megabytes of 32 bit ram. > I didn't know those things ran at 40 Mhz, or are they grade outs from > the 33 Mhz parts bin ? 40MHz '020s are sampling Real Soon Now. 40MHz '030s will be along later, they say. I suppose you could try and pick an extra fast 33MHz part and crank it up. Though if you've seen the price of 33MHz parts, you might expect that there aren't than many folks around with a whole bin of these things from which to pick and choose. > I got a lump of coal. > richard@gryphon.COM {b'bone}!gryphon!richard gryphon!richard@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov -- Dave Haynie "The 32 Bit Guy" Commodore-Amiga "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: D-DAVE H BIX: hazy Amiga -- It's not just a job, it's an obsession
limonce@pilot.njin.net (Tom Limoncelli) (01/04/89)
In article <6183@louie.udel.EDU> Tom Claydon: ASTLC@alaska.bitnet;, writes: [ junk about a mythical Amiga 3000 ] > > I ask -- FACT OR FICTION? > > ------------------------ > Tom Claydon I answer -- FICTION. (Just My HO :-) -- Tom Limoncelli Drew University Madison NJ 201-408-5389 tlimonce@drunivac.Bitnet limonce@pilot.njin.net "Fences make good neighbors" -Frost "I want an MMU" -Me Standard disclaimer? No, we're still on the dpANS disclaimer.
cmcmanis%pepper@Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) (01/07/89)
In article <6183@louie.udel.EDU> Tom Claydon: ASTLC@alaska.bitnet;, writes: > I ask -- FACT OR FICTION? As the saying goes "If you have to ask ..." No one but Commodore knows what a 3000 might look like and they are not talking. No Article that purports to portray such a beast is anything more than the wet dream of the author. Being pure fantasy in nature they are easy to come up with, you know 4K x 4K x 24 bits graphics, half a gig of user ram, 600 Meg removable, R/W optical drives with 2 mS access times, 68040 processor running at 50Mhz, with slots for another 7 processors giving you a 180Mips, 3.5MWhetstones, 1M Dhrystones performance. All for under $1,000 and compatible with AmigaDos 1.1 of course ... --Chuck McManis uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: cmcmanis ARPAnet: cmcmanis@sun.com These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you.
limonce@pilot.njin.net (Tom Limoncelli) (01/09/89)
In article <84314@sun.uucp> cmcmanis%pepper@Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) writes: [ humorous description deleted ] > giving you a 180Mips, 3.5MWhetstones, 1M Dhrystones performance. All for > under $1,000 and compatible with AmigaDos 1.1 of course ... > > --Chuck McManis :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Arrrrgh! How dare they *forget* all the people that helped build up the Amiga! If there isn't 1.0 support I'm going to start screaming bloody murder! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) -- Tom Limoncelli Drew University Madison NJ 201-408-5389 tlimonce@drunivac.Bitnet limonce@pilot.njin.net "Fences make good neighbors" -Frost "I want an MMU" -Me Standard disclaimer? No, we're still on the dpANS disclaimer.
sneakers@heimat.UUCP (Dan "Sneakers" Schein) (01/11/89)
In Message <Jan.8.18.37.31.1989.2626@pilot.njin.net>, limonce@pilot.njin.net (Tom Limoncelli) writes: > >In article <84314@sun.uucp> cmcmanis%pepper@Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) writes: > >[ humorous description deleted ] >> giving you a 180Mips, 3.5MWhetstones, 1M Dhrystones performance. All for >> under $1,000 and compatible with AmigaDos 1.1 of course ... >> >> --Chuck McManis > >:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) >Arrrrgh! How dare they *forget* all the people that helped build up >the Amiga! If there isn't 1.0 support I'm going to start screaming >bloody murder! >:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Thats why I have the ability to have 2 KickStart's in heimat, user select- able on boot or re-boot if need be (Default is V1.3). One socket holds the CBM styled ROM, and the other holds 4 do_it_yourself EPROMS. Its like having your cake and eating it too...... Sneakers -- Dan "Sneakers" Schein {pyramid|rutgers|uunet}!cbmvax!heimat!sneakers Sneakers Computing 2455 McKinley Ave. Of course heimat is an Amiga. West Lawn, PA 19609 Doesn't everyone run UUCP & UseNet on an Amiga? Call: BERKS AMIGA BBS - 60+ Megs - 24 Hrs - 12/2400 Baud - 215/678-7691
limonce@pilot.njin.net (Tom Limoncelli) (01/16/89)
In article <5680.AA5680@heimat> sneakers@heimat.UUCP (Dan "Sneakers" Schein) writes: > Thats why I have the ability to have 2 KickStart's in heimat, user select- > able on boot or re-boot if need be (Default is V1.3). > One socket holds the CBM styled ROM, and the other holds 4 do_it_yourself > EPROMS. > Its like having your cake and eating it too...... > Dan "Sneakers" Schein {pyramid|rutgers|uunet}!cbmvax!heimat!sneakers Oh sure! But will protect-mode AmigaDOS allow certain processes run under 1.0 while other processes run under 1.1, 1.2, etc? :-) -Tom -- Tom Limoncelli Drew University Madison NJ 201-408-5389 tlimonce@drunivac.Bitnet limonce@pilot.njin.net "Fences make good neighbors" -Frost "I want an MMU" -Me Standard disclaimer? No, we're still on the dpANS disclaimer.