conn@stratus.UUCP (Avery Shealey) (10/20/87)
Could someone send me more information(binaries) on VDK:. I would
appreciate it.
Thanks,
Avery
Avery Shealey
School of Information & Computer Science, Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332
Internet: conn@stratus.gatech.edu CSNet: conn%stratus@gatech
UUCP: ...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ihnp4}!gatech!stratus!connmwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (My watch has windows) Meyer) (10/21/87)
In article <898@stratus.UUCP> conn@stratus.UUCP (Avery Shealey) writes:
<Could someone send me more information(binaries) on VDK:. I would
<appreciate it.
Not legally. The vdk:'s floating around are pirated beta test copies
of an unreleased commercial software package.
I talked with Neal about this a couple of weeks ago, and it sounded
like vdk: was actually going to show up in stores in the not to
distant future.
<mike
--
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Not about anything else, either. mwm@ucbjade.BITNETdillon@CORY.BERKELEY.EDU (Matt Dillon) (10/21/87)
>I talked with Neal about this a couple of weeks ago, and it sounded >like vdk: was actually going to show up in stores in the not to >distant future. Seems a waste, considering that it isn't all that hard to write something like VDK:... you just need documentation on DOS. Speaking of which, with or without ACTION_INFO I'm going to post my sample DOS device driver in a day or two. I'll post an update when I get the information. -Matt
phillip@cbmvax.UUCP (Phillip Lindsay GUEST) (10/21/87)
in article <8710210644.AA16808@cory.Berkeley.EDU>, dillon@CORY.BERKELEY.EDU (Matt Dillon) says: > > > Speaking of which, with or without ACTION_INFO I'm going to post > my sample DOS device driver in a day or two. I'll post an update when I > get the information. > > -Matt For the benefit of people trying to get AmigaDOS to do wonderful things PLEASE POST! What problem are you having with ACTION_INFO? ============================================================================== Phillip (Flip) Lindsay - Wake up and watch CNN at: Heather Ridge Apts. #G-115 UUCP: {ihnp4|seismo|caip}!cbmvax!phillip Mantua, NJ 08051 No warranty is implied or otherwise given in the form of suggestion or example. Any opinions found here are of my making.
CRONEJP@UREGINA1.BITNET (Jonathan Crone) (02/27/88)
Where do i get it..... give me a phone number of a BBS that has it , or send me uuencoded ARC of it.... I have VD0: but i've heard that VDK: is better, still shareware, and grows and contracts as files go into it.... am i correct??? Jonathan P. Crone ==================================================================== Jonathan P. Crone Vice President, AURA, (Amiga Users of Regina Associated.) (Regina, Sask. Canada ) (eh???) CRONEJP@UREGINA1.BITNET ....rutgers!mimsy!uunet!mcl!cronejp come on now.... does ANYONE care about what i have to say? ====================================================================
ain@s.cc.purdue.edu (Patrick White) (03/02/88)
In article <8802262108.AA01299@jade.berkeley.edu> CRONEJP@UREGINA1.BITNET (Jonathan Crone) writes: >I have VD0: but i've heard that VDK: is better, still shareware, >and grows and contracts as files go into it.... I called the author a few months ago when I found a copy in our archives. He told me that the beta-release (beta? I think it was) that had gotten out was most definately *not* PD, or shareware, or anything else like that. So I dinked it from the archives (don't really know how it got out there anyway... it wasn't in any of the indices or anything). I seem to remember someone mentioning that some memory board company was distributing copies.. don't know what version or company it was though. As for the reliability of VDK:, the beta copy we had was buggy in that sometimes it would toast files for no reason. -- Pat White (co-moderator comp.sources/binaries.amiga) UUCP: k.cc.purdue.edu!ain BITNET: PATWHITE@PURCCVM PHONE: (317) 743-8421 U.S. Mail: 320 Brown St. apt. 406, West Lafayette, IN 47906
eric@hector.UUCP (Eric Lavitsky) (03/03/88)
In article <8802262108.AA01299@jade.berkeley.edu> CRONEJP@UREGINA1.BITNET.UUCP writes: >Where do i get it..... > >give me a phone number of a BBS that has it , or send me > uuencoded ARC of it.... >I have VD0: but i've heard that VDK: is better, still shareware, >and grows and contracts as files go into it.... > >am i correct??? Better is a relative term... VD0: grows and shrinks as you use it - it's memory management scheme looks like this: Mount VD0: (say make it 2Meg) - Ok - the device set's up it's magic at the top end of memory. It allocates a small portion of memory up there, sort of it's root block and a little more. The size specified in the Mountlist simply determines what the *maximum* size of this VD0: can be. It does not allocate everything at once. Copy something into VD0: - Ok - the device will start allocating memory for the file blocks from the top end of memory down. Remember, any memory not being used by VD0: can be used for other applications. VD0: does everything possible to maintain it's memory allocation in a contiguous fashion from the top down. If some other application resides at the bottom of the current VD0: position, and VD0: needs more memory, it will allocate around that application. Note, however, that every so often, VD0: will check to see if that memory space has been freed and if so, will relocate it's data so as to keep itself contiguous. If there is no more free memory available, VD0: will return a read/write error. Delete something from VD0: - Ok, the device marks these blocks as deleted. Now, every 200 or so accesses to VD0:, the device will free up the memory used by deleted blocks to the rest of the system. If you want to force this action, Perry provides the utility "CleanRamDisk" to do it (every 200 accesses really means every 200 references to data in VD0:, which is not too difficult to achieve in a short period of time). Now, VDK: works much like the original RAM: disk - and is a handler much like the original RAM: disk. It does not do any sophisticated memory management, and will fragment memory to it's hearts content. It is much faster than VD0:, because that is the nature of a handler over a device. I believe VDK: is a commercial product available for $10 from Pacific Peripherals. Now, you make the decision which tradeoff you would rather have ... >Jonathan P. Crone >Vice President, AURA, (Amiga Users of Regina Associated.) >(Regina, Sask. Canada ) (eh???) Eric ARPA: eric@topaz.rutgers.edu "Lithium is no longer available UUCP: ...{wherever!}ulysses!eric on credit..." ...{wherever!}rutgers!topaz!eric - from Buckaroo Banzai SNAIL: 34 Maplehurst Ln, Piscataway, NJ 08854
ken@umbc3.UMD.EDU (Ken Spagnolo ) (03/03/88)
Since I got no responses before, I'll ask again. Does anyone know anything about GlobVec? I can't use VDK: because the mounlist sets this variable, which for me comes up undefined. I suppose I deleted something at some point (customizing has its hidden drawbacks) that I now need. VD0: works fine, but I always like to compare... Thanx. Ken Spagnolo ken@umbc3.umd.edu Disclaimer: VALIS made me do it.
schein@cbmvax.UUCP (Dan Schein CATS) (03/04/88)
In article <8802262108.AA01299@jade.berkeley.edu> CRONEJP@UREGINA1.BITNET (Jonathan Crone) writes: >Where do i get it..... > >give me a phone number of a BBS that has it , or send me > uuencoded ARC of it.... >I have VD0: but i've heard that VDK: is better, still shareware, >and grows and contracts as files go into it.... > VDK: is *NOT* (and never was) ShareWare or Public Domain, it is a commercial and copyrighted product. If you want to buy a copy contact Expansion Technologies at 415/652-2890. >am i correct??? > You are now :-) > >Jonathan P. Crone -- Dan Schein uucp: {ihnp4|allegra|burdvax|rutgers}!cbmvax!schein Commodore AMIGA ARPANET: cbmvax!schein@uunet.uu.net 1200 Wilson Drive Bix: dschein Plink: Dan*CATS West Chester PA 19380 phone: (215) 431-9100 ext. 9542 +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ All spelling mistakes are a result of my efforts to avoid education :-) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ I help Commodore by supporting the AMIGA. Commodore supports me by allowing me to form my own suggestions and comments.
neil@mitsumi.UUCP (Neil Katin) (03/09/88)
>>give me a phone number of a BBS that has it , or send me >> uuencoded ARC of it.... >>I have VD0: but i've heard that VDK: is better, still shareware, >>and grows and contracts as files go into it.... >> > VDK: is *NOT* (and never was) ShareWare or Public Domain, it is a > commercial and copyrighted product. If you want to buy a copy contact > Expansion Technologies at 415/652-2890. > >>am i correct??? >> > You are now :-) >> >>Jonathan P. Crone > > Dan Schein uucp: {ihnp4|allegra|burdvax|rutgers}!cbmvax!schein Almost right. The real story about VDK (and I should know, because I wrote it...) is that it is licensed to Expansion Technologies for bundling with their ram board. The don't really intend to distribute it. For a long time it has languished in legal limbo. Within the last few weeks I have cleared up who has rights to distribute it. The answer seems to be that we both do. I'm working on a new version of VDK with some bug fixes, speed improvements, and better memory allocation. It should be available in about a month. If you have a legal copy of VDK (and there are only about 400 of you who do...) you should contact your distributor for an update. If you WANT a legal copy, the price is $10, but I won't be sending out any copies until the new release is ready (I only work on it in my spare time). If you want to know when it is ready, send a note to: Neil Katin 102 Baintree Place Los Gatos, CA 95030
haitex@pnet01.cts.com (Wade Bickel) (03/09/88)
I received VDK: with my Pacific Peripherals mem. box. It came with
the beta of VDK:. I called Pacific Peripherals, and requested an update,
which they aggreed to send me and then never did. Thus, while I have had no
problems with the box I also do not recommend it.
I also spoke with the author, who has had difficulties with P.P. and
is really not supporting VDK any more. He offered to send me a copy of the
release version if I sent him a disk, which I did. Months have passed, NO
VDK! (maybe it never made it to hime???)
Thus I still have not gotten the release version. However the product
is unsupported, so maybe VD0: is the way to go!
Also, there is JD0: (Joanne Dow's program), which may be better than
either VDK: or VD0:. Unfortunatly, this is only available if you buy memory
box from the owning company (Microbotics ???). Supposedly it should be
available by the end of summer as a product (or PD?).
QUESTION: since I can't buy this program, would it be "immoral"
to pirate it and buy it when/if it comes out? I have
had more than one opportunity to receive it (via you
pirates out on the net...thanks...but no thanks), and
I am sorely tempted.
Thanks,
Wade.
UUCP: {cbosgd, hplabs!hp-sdd, sdcsvax, nosc}!crash!pnet01!haitex
ARPA: crash!pnet01!haitex@nosc.mil
INET: haitex@pnet01.CTS.COMschein@cbmvax.UUCP (Dan Schein CATS) (03/11/88)
In article <3221@mitsumi.UUCP> neil@mitsumi.UUCP (Neil Katin) writes: > >If you have a legal copy of VDK (and there are only about 400 of you >who do...) you should contact your distributor for an update. > I feel like im part of a real ELITE club with only 400 members :-) > Neil Katin -- Dan Schein uucp: {ihnp4|allegra|burdvax|rutgers}!cbmvax!schein Commodore AMIGA ARPANET: cbmvax!schein@uunet.uu.net 1200 Wilson Drive Bix: dschein Plink: Dan*CATS West Chester PA 19380 phone: (215) 431-9100 ext. 9542 +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ All spelling mistakes are a result of my efforts to avoid education :-) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ I help Commodore by supporting the AMIGA. Commodore supports me by allowing me to form my own suggestions and comments.
haitex@pnet01.cts.com (Wade Bickel) (03/14/88)
Doug_B_Erdely@cup.portal.com writes: >WHHHOOO!! >I just read a message dated JUST A FEW DAYS ago by the Author of VDK:, Neil >Katin. I got a copy with my Memory BOX (Escourt 2) manufactured by Expansion ... >VERY well. Please do not blame VDK: for PP screw ups. VDK: as worked very >well for me, and I intend to get the updated version with more features. >The Author of VDK: said that folks could get info by writing to him >directly... his address per his message is: Neil Katin >102 Baintree Place >Los Gatos, CA. 95030 > >VDK: is a fine piece of software, lets not tarnish a nice product! :> Neil Katin's posting appeared after my posting went out, both as responses to the same article. Perhaps my posting appeared after his at your site? I am still using my beta version of VDK:, for any number of reasons I find it preferable to VD0:. However when I spoke to Neil his problems with P.P. were less resolved than they evidently (from his posting) are now. Since I had not received the release version after over a month, I assumed that for the forseeable future VDK: is effectivly unsupported. I was just about to convert my sytem to VD0: when Neil's posting appeared, and I had hoped he would see my posting and I might receive a release copy. I certainly agree with you that VDK: is a fine peice of software. In fact, I've become so frustrated not being able to purchase it (the release version) or aquire in legal manner that, given the opportunitity I would now pirate it if I could! :^) Still looking for a non-beta VDK: Wade. UUCP: {cbosgd, hplabs!hp-sdd, sdcsvax, nosc}!crash!pnet01!haitex ARPA: crash!pnet01!haitex@nosc.mil INET: haitex@pnet01.CTS.COM
MOLNARRM@UREGINA1.BITNET (Dennis Gorrie) (01/12/89)
In my quest to find the a better working environment for my 1.5 meg A1000, I have come across something that appears to be useful. Recoverable ram-disks. But I have some criticisms of the currently available recoverable ram-disks... RAD is very reliable, but I like to be able to resize my ram-disk on the fly, and I will often delete stuff out of a ram disk in order to run another program. VD0: is ok, but it runs at less than half the speed of the others. I have come across a version of VDK: , beta test, by Neil Katin, which is automaticaly resizing, and faster than VD0:, but it has a lot of bugs in it. Does anyone know where I could get a newer version of VDK? Can you give me an address to send mail to? Is it possible to make a re-sizeable RAD: type device? That is, something more reliable than VDK:, as fast as RAD:, and possibly able to reboot like RAD:, and able to diskcopy to like RAD? Or, how about recoverable Resident commands? Dennis Gorrie 'Happiness is a Warm Chain-Saw'
MOLNARRM@UREGINA1.BITNET (01/22/89)
Nearly a month ago I posted questions regarding recoverable-ram-disks. I found that for my set up (an A1000 with 1.5 meg) certain recoverable ram disks were not useful to me. I found RAD: to be a hindrance be cause is not re-sizeable. I found VD0: to be 2x or more slower than the others. I found a 'Beta Test' of VDK on a BBS. However, it seems that this file may have been pirated. >I guess occasionally we have to post a reminder... there NEVER was an >official PD version of VDK:. This was always a commercial (though a >VERY low cost) product written by Neil Katin, once of Amiga Computer. >At one point in time, when version 1.0 of the product was out, someone Are you absolutely sure about this? I found a 'beta test' of VDK on a BBS, complete with docs. It even includes a sample mountlist entry. Neil Katin's copyright is in the VDK-handler as well. Here is an excerpt from the doc file : :This file: README. Last Changed: 8 Jan 1987 : :This is an beta test of the vdk "virtual disk" handler. There are no :known bugs, but the system has not been extensively used either. Please :report bugs to Neil Katin @ 408-866-5276. Make sure you leave a phone # :where I can call you. Can you explain this? At any rate, I have posted messages to comp.sys.amiga for a month now inquiring an address to send for the official version of VDK and I have only received another phone number which was not answered when I phoned it. An address would most appreciated. Dennis Gorrie 'Chain-Saw Tag... Try it, You'll Like it!'
rap@ardent.UUCP (Rob Peck) (01/24/89)
In article <8901221646.AA01207@jade.berkeley.edu>, MOLNARRM@UREGINA1.BITNET writes: > Are you absolutely sure about this? I found a 'beta test' of VDK on a BBS, > complete with docs. It even includes a sample mountlist entry. > Neil Katin's copyright is in the VDK-handler as well. > Here is an excerpt from the doc file : > > :This file: README. Last Changed: 8 Jan 1987 > : > :This is an beta test of the vdk "virtual disk" handler. There are no > :known bugs, but the system has not been extensively used either. Please As far as I remember, when Neil gave out his beta test versions, they were given to folks he trusted not to distribute it further... this is the whole idea behind beta testing, eh? But I have here a path that is supposed to forward mail directly to Neil (but no phone number to offer). Try these paths and let us know what happens: Note that you need not only VDK: but also the patch for it, which by now Neil may already have incorporated (patch is available on People Link... best place I know to get PD stuff other than Fish). Patch makes VDK: not respond "sorry, I am full" to info requests about 'is there nuff space for this'. The path that I have is: hplabs!pyramid!amiga!neil or uunet!cbmvax!amiga!neil whichever is easiest for you to trace. Neil Katin's mail gets forwarded from amiga to SUN somewhere. Good luck; VDK: at last time I knew, was only about $10.00. Faster than VD0: and acts like RAM: rather than RAD: (not fixed size). Rob Peck
Bruce_Eric_Bowers@cup.portal.com (01/25/89)
What is the difference between VDK: and VD0:? I've been using VD0: in ignorant bliss for quite some time and have no complaints. Is VDK: significantly faster? The bottom line: Why would I want to switch to VDK:, and if you have a good reason, how do I get a copy? Thanks for your help with this. Bruce Bowers "The guy who needs no disclaimer"